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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbian Visibility Week

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Shizuku · 27/04/2021 11:40

Shout out to my fellow lesbians on this important week!

I will be wearing my lesbian pride badge right next to my trans pride badge for the whole week in all public spaces.

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theThreeofWeevils · 29/04/2021 23:32

Well no one follows gender stereotypes anymore

Oh sweetie. You are (almost) soooo funny.
Stereotypes is where most of this nonsensical, biology-denying, experience-appropriating, word salad shite started. And they are what is being perpetuated, every day, all over twitter and the like.

Waitwhat23 · 29/04/2021 23:32

But you have stated in many, many threads that the NHS states that 'woman is a gender term' and have used the NHS digital manual to back up your claim. Is the NHS wrong then?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/04/2021 23:32

Some people only have grey heart emojis where others have coherent rational arguments.

TinselAngel · 29/04/2021 23:34

That's fine. And like I've said this whole time, people are allowed to do and think what they want.

Unless they're trans widows who want to tell their stories on the internet, in which case you believe thy should be hounded and banned,which is why you invited your followers to try and get me banned from Twitter.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/04/2021 23:34

That's not very inclusive.

CorvusPurpureus · 29/04/2021 23:34

'Grey heart'. Perfect. .

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 29/04/2021 23:35

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cakedays · 29/04/2021 23:35

I want to be a man. I mean I don't have any gender dysphoria and I'm actually quite fond of my lady garden, but that's not required nowadays. (I like all my body too, though I don't like the way people stare at it and the fact I have to pluck all the hairs off or people will disapprove, and all the clothes which fit it are uncomfortable and expensive, so on.)

But I want to be able to be paid better, to speak my mind without social censure, to walk about at night without risk of assault. I identify as someone bold, decisive and outspoken, who likes to argue and go to work, and likes male things, like earning money, science, reading the Financial Times, being the breadwinner, driving, doing the household finances, and not deferring to other people's opinions and not having to wear makeup and that kind of thing. I also wouldn't mind being referred to with he/his pronouns just to see what it's like. I'm really delighted to know that all these things make me a man! I look forward to the extra 20% of my salary arriving as soon as I make it known to HR.

TinselAngel · 29/04/2021 23:35

@Ereshkigalangcleg

That's not very inclusive.
I think inclusivity only applies to the right kind of women. Not the uppity sort.
LostToucan · 29/04/2021 23:35

Well no one follows gender stereotypes anymore so there isn't much to it other than wanting to be called a woman and having she/her pronouns

So there we have it. I might as well identify as a goat and insist on goat based pronouns like baaa / brrrr / bmm.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/04/2021 23:37

Why would a kind and empathetic person like Asugarr attack trans widows, ie women in abusive relationships with their male partners? It doesn't make any sense.

CorvusPurpureus · 29/04/2021 23:37

I've just seen a suggestion on Mary Beard's twitter thread for hic/haec/hoc.

Noted in case I ever get cornered into adopting this nonsense...

GreyhoundG1rl · 29/04/2021 23:38

I'm going with just/fuck/off. It's a new identity. All mine.

cakedays · 29/04/2021 23:38

@CorvusPurpureus

I've just seen a suggestion on Mary Beard's twitter thread for hic/haec/hoc.

Noted in case I ever get cornered into adopting this nonsense...

The US-based Chronicle of Higher Education went through a period in the late 2000s where they proposed using 'hu/hus' as a gender neutral pronoun. It didn't take off Grin
GreyhoundG1rl · 29/04/2021 23:40

Hoo hoos! I wonder why it didn't take off?

CorvusPurpureus · 29/04/2021 23:40

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Why would a kind and empathetic person like Asugarr attack trans widows, ie women in abusive relationships with their male partners? It doesn't make any sense.
Asugarr frames this as offensive to widows, as in people whose partner has died.

It's an odd one given the enthusiastic use of the term 'deadname'.

Lots of widows, myself included, have said we don't find it offensive at all, but off trots Asugarr to orchestrate a pile on regardless.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/04/2021 23:40

Perhaps Asugarr should read some of the harrowing stories on the Trans Widows Voices site, then she might understand why it's important to these women to reclaim their lives and experiences:

https://www.transwidowsvoices.org/

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Blibbyblobby · 29/04/2021 23:41

@ASugarr

And like I've said this whole time, people are allowed to do and think what they want

Well that's jolly accommodating of you!

Going forward I define myself as you.

And since I identity as you, I have a right to anything that's legally yours, because I literally am you and to deny me my rights or insist on a difference between us is hurtful and invalidating.

So if you just pop your bank details and keys in an envelope that would be grand.

TinselAngel · 29/04/2021 23:41

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Why would a kind and empathetic person like Asugarr attack trans widows, ie women in abusive relationships with their male partners? It doesn't make any sense.
We cause inconvenient cognitive dissonance to thoughtless virtue signallers, it's easier to try and shut us up than address the reasons for the dissonance.
Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/04/2021 23:42

That pesky cognitive dissonance.

cakedays · 29/04/2021 23:43

@GreyhoundG1rl

Hoo hoos! I wonder why it didn't take off?
Grin if I recall correctly 'hu' was meant to be pronounced as sort of midway between 'hoo' and 'huh', a bit like a kind of breathy grunt Grin

No, I can't imagine why it didn't take off either...

Scepticaltank · 29/04/2021 23:44

Do you think the pound shop stock all the pronoun remainders?

I could ask. "Have you got any hoo hoos left? Or just/fuck/off if you have run out of hoo hoos?"

Iluvfriends · 29/04/2021 23:45

Fact.....
Lesbian = same sex attracted, biological born female.

Anyone born with a penis is male therefore cannot be a lesbian. No matter how many times you say it, it will never be true.

theThreeofWeevils · 29/04/2021 23:45

I might as well identify as a goat and insist on goat based pronouns like baaa / brrrr / bmm

LostToucan, I fear you are misneopronouning yourself. As a goat, it's thrrrp / thrrp / thrrrps. Very farty, goats.