LGB Alliance is now a registered charity

[OhHolyJesus]

It took over a year...

"LGBA applied to register as a charity in March 2020. Its purposes are to promote equality and diversity and human rights.
The test of charity status is set out in law. A charity is an organisation with exclusively charitable purposes for the public benefit, that is subject to the jurisdiction of the High Court of England and Wales. If it meets these legal tests, it will be entered on the charity register.
It is not the Commission’s role to make value judgements about the aims or ideas put forward by any organisation. Instead, its role is to decide whether an organisation’s purposes fall within the legal definition of charity.
The Commission received a number of objections to the registration of LGBA as a charity. It carefully considered these as part of making its decision. In handling this application, the Commission has had regard to the Public Sector Equality Duty.
Registered charities fall under the Commission’s regulation, and their trustees must continuously meet the legal duties and responsibilities set down under charity law. A charity can promote the rights of one or more specific groups, but may not do so whilst demeaning or denigrating the rights of others, including on social media – and the Commission will consider taking regulatory action where that occurs.
The full decision, explaining the grounds for registering the organisation and the objections that were considered, can be found on GOV.UKK_"

www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-confirms-registration-of-lgb-alliance

Absinthe

However confidencality isn't just about the young people. It's about how the practice is run, how to handle x,y and z. That information cant be handed out (at least none that isn't already public on the goverments document of RSE). The rest is a companion policy to not be discussed.

Funny isn't it how some places are so different. I work across the NHS, social care and higher education, and in all three, transparency is the key ☺️

Hats off to these women. The tact is torturous and it has to be spelled out so clearly.

YES there are people who want it to be fast, easy and cheap to change legal sex
YES there are people who want to easily change birth certificates to say what they would prefer them to say.

The ISSUE is that this massively increases the entry of male people into female only spaces, which does not work for all women

So give them out like sweets if you want

AND

add additional spaces while making clear that some provisions are reserved for the use of female people only and there is no mechanism by which a male person can use those reserved spaces.

That will be unacceptable to some male people. And that is tough, because it's not only them who matter in terms of inclusion and feelings.

It's much easier to explain in person. Plus people here have taken a lot of it out of context (or don't understand which is fine). No, it isn't. Just type what you are thinking. As a teacher that kind of communication is perfectly normal.

And your problem is that some of us understand very well and have decades of experience.

Department of Education
Safeguarding, reports of abuse and confidentiality

"At the heart of these subjects there is a focus on keeping children safe, and schools can play an important role in preventative education. Keeping Children Safe in Education (KCSIE) sets out that all schools and colleges should ensure children are taught about safeguarding, including how to stay safe online, as part of providing a broad and balanced curriculum.

Good practice allows children an open forum to discuss potentially sensitive issues. Such discussions can lead to increased safeguarding reports. Children should be made aware of how to raise their concerns or make a report and how any report will be handled. This should include processes when they have a concern about a friend or peer.

KCSIE is clear that all staff should know what to do if a pupil tells them that they are being abused or neglected or are witnessing abuse. Staff should know how to manage the requirement to maintain an appropriate level of confidentiality. This means only involving those who need to be involved, such as the designated safeguarding lead (or deputy) and children’s social care. Staff should never promise a child that they will not tell anyone about a report of abuse, as this may ultimately not be in the best interests of the child.

Good practice would be to involve the designated safeguarding lead (or a deputy) in anything that is safeguarding-related in the context of these subjects. They will potentially have knowledge of trusted, high quality local resources that could be engaged, links to the police and other agencies and the knowledge of any particular local issues which it may be appropriate to address in lessons."

www.gov.uk/government/publications/relationships-education-relationships-and-sex-education-rse-and-health-education/delivery-and-teaching-strategies#safeguarding-reports-of-abuse-and-confidentiality

[quote R0wantrees]Department of Education
Safeguarding, reports of abuse and confidentiality

"At the heart of these subjects there is a focus on keeping children safe, and schools can play an important role in preventative education. Keeping Children Safe in Education (KCSIE) sets out that all schools and colleges should ensure children are taught about safeguarding, including how to stay safe online, as part of providing a broad and balanced curriculum.

Good practice allows children an open forum to discuss potentially sensitive issues. Such discussions can lead to increased safeguarding reports. Children should be made aware of how to raise their concerns or make a report and how any report will be handled. This should include processes when they have a concern about a friend or peer.

KCSIE is clear that all staff should know what to do if a pupil tells them that they are being abused or neglected or are witnessing abuse. Staff should know how to manage the requirement to maintain an appropriate level of confidentiality. This means only involving those who need to be involved, such as the designated safeguarding lead (or deputy) and children’s social care. Staff should never promise a child that they will not tell anyone about a report of abuse, as this may ultimately not be in the best interests of the child.

Good practice would be to involve the designated safeguarding lead (or a deputy) in anything that is safeguarding-related in the context of these subjects. They will potentially have knowledge of trusted, high quality local resources that could be engaged, links to the police and other agencies and the knowledge of any particular local issues which it may be appropriate to address in lessons."

www.gov.uk/government/publications/relationships-education-relationships-and-sex-education-rse-and-health-education/delivery-and-teaching-strategies#safeguarding-reports-of-abuse-and-confidentiality[/quote]
Exactly. That's exactly right.

Exactly. That's exactly right Yes, we ALL know that. But it is NOT what you have said!

They can't disclose stuff like a girl mentioning she's taken a pregnancy test before and stuff like that.

A child under sixteen?

@CuriousaboutSamphire

Exactly. That's exactly right Yes, we ALL know that. But it is NOT what you have said!

Yes it is. That's exactly what I've said.

@R0wantrees

They can't disclose stuff like a girl mentioning she's taken a pregnancy test before and stuff like that.

A child under sixteen?

As in they can't go shouting out stuff someone has disclosed in one of our sessions because its our job to Safeguard and deal with it.

I'm hopeful that you've managed to figure out how to attach pictures to DMs @FannyCann @RufustheSniggeringReindeer @Aposterhasnoname I'd love a copy please. I've been collecting threats

@MichelleofzeResistance

Hats off to these women. The tact is torturous and it has to be spelled out so clearly.

YES there are people who want it to be fast, easy and cheap to change legal sex
YES there are people who want to easily change birth certificates to say what they would prefer them to say.

The ISSUE is that this massively increases the entry of male people into female only spaces, which does not work for all women

So give them out like sweets if you want

AND

add additional spaces while making clear that some provisions are reserved for the use of female people only and there is no mechanism by which a male person can use those reserved spaces.

That will be unacceptable to some male people. And that is tough, because it's not only them who matter in terms of inclusion and feelings.

👏👏👏

I do. And am trained in safeguarding.

Gosh me too. I'm one of the safeguarding leads accross the three organisations that I work with. I think youre right though, the policies of which you work within means we definitely don't work together ☺️

By the way everything I've discussed isn't just based on the organization I work for or anything. This is what everyone who teaches RSE follows. They all legally follow this pattern.

This is not true.
There have been countless examples of experienced teachers demonstrating and explaining best practise in RSE informed by an understanding of statuatory responsibilities and experience.
It is very apparent to readers of the glaring differences.

But more indepth questions won't be answered.

Yes, they might prove a bit tricky, don’t you think?

Im sorry, that post was meant for the evidence comittee thread!

Plus people here have taken a lot of it out of context (or don't understand which is fine).

I don't think it was out of context, posters took you at your word. You first said everything was confidential, then said you meant confidential in terms of conversations and resources.

That's what set alarm bells off. Resources and lessons being secret is a massive safeguarding issue, and I think posters were worried about who had told you that. If children were being told they're not allowed to discuss what they're being taught in RSE, then you'd have a duty to flag that or you could find yourself in hot water.

And am trained in safeguarding.

Many people have completed Safeguarding training and yet they demonstrate a clear lack of understanding and/or ability to integrate it into their work.

Those who understand Safeguarding and Child Protection demonstrate it.

As in they can't go shouting out stuff someone has disclosed in one of our sessions because its our job to Safeguard and deal with it.

You do understand that safeguarding often involves sharing information with designated safeguarding individuals, don’t you? That it’s not about keeping things to yourself if there’s a safeguarding concern?

@HeeeeeyBogie

I'm hopeful that you've managed to figure out how to attach pictures to DMs *@FannyCann* *@RufustheSniggeringReindeer* *@Aposterhasnoname* I'd love a copy please. I've been collecting threats

Ive no clue

But i have an idea how to do it another way 😀

Do you mean the death threat from earlier?

@yourhairiswinterfire

Plus people here have taken a lot of it out of context (or don't understand which is fine).

I don't think it was out of context, posters took you at your word. You first said everything was confidential, then said you meant confidential in terms of conversations and resources.

That's what set alarm bells off. Resources and lessons being secret is a massive safeguarding issue, and I think posters were worried about who had told you that. If children were being told they're not allowed to discuss what they're being taught in RSE, then you'd have a duty to flag that or you could find yourself in hot water.

I thought when I said everything was confidential that they would understand that doesn't mean safeguarding concerns and all that. As many apparently state that they work in a similar field. I thought that would be common sense so my apologies that it wasn't worded correctly. All material is looked over and any changes are made by the school. That is how the process is and as R quoted, its the standard practice. They aren't a secret, they just aren't for the public. They are for the students and the school to have.

It's much easier to explain in person. Plus people here have taken a lot of it out of context (or don't understand which is fine).

If you can't explain it to a group of adult women, some of whom have graduate and post-graduate qualifications and years of teaching experience, how can you trust you are more effective at explaining what is confidential and what is not, to teenagers? Depending on the age range we are talking about, they may not have even taken GCSEs yet, never mind level 3 qualifications.

Yes please @RufustheBadgeringReindeer

School?

They aren't a secret, they just aren't for the public. The resources are not publicly available? You need to re-read the DofE link above.

What you are now referring to as 'standard practice' as outlined by A N Other (because you can't expain it clearly) is NOT what you are, even now, describing!

That is how the process is and as R quoted, its the standard practice. They aren't a secret, they just aren't for the public. They are for the students and the school to have.

Can the parents view the material being used to teach their children?