LGB Alliance is now a registered charity

[OhHolyJesus]

It took over a year...

"LGBA applied to register as a charity in March 2020. Its purposes are to promote equality and diversity and human rights.
The test of charity status is set out in law. A charity is an organisation with exclusively charitable purposes for the public benefit, that is subject to the jurisdiction of the High Court of England and Wales. If it meets these legal tests, it will be entered on the charity register.
It is not the Commission’s role to make value judgements about the aims or ideas put forward by any organisation. Instead, its role is to decide whether an organisation’s purposes fall within the legal definition of charity.
The Commission received a number of objections to the registration of LGBA as a charity. It carefully considered these as part of making its decision. In handling this application, the Commission has had regard to the Public Sector Equality Duty.
Registered charities fall under the Commission’s regulation, and their trustees must continuously meet the legal duties and responsibilities set down under charity law. A charity can promote the rights of one or more specific groups, but may not do so whilst demeaning or denigrating the rights of others, including on social media – and the Commission will consider taking regulatory action where that occurs.
The full decision, explaining the grounds for registering the organisation and the objections that were considered, can be found on GOV.UKK_"

www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-confirms-registration-of-lgb-alliance

Nobody adequately trained in Safeguarding and Child Protection ever states that everything is confidential, nor should they ever suggest this is the case to children.

I know. This has been pointed out on other threads. I provided a link to some guidelines for a local authority. But still uninformed misinformation persists.

Obviously other than for safeguarding reasons. I mean in terms of our resources and the conversations brought up in class (as long as they don't harm others or themselves).

Resources used in schools by outside agencies should never be confidential. The school is required to scrutinise resources and parents/carers must also be able to examine them.

@CorvusPurpureus

Asugarr, obviously you don't have to answer this, if it's too personal, but would I be correct in thinking that you do not hold QTS?

I do. And am trained in safeguarding. However the context of my words wasn't clear. I apologize. I didn't mean that absolutely everything in those classes is confidential. Of course if a child is in danger or is at significant risk, actions are made and young people are made aware of that. However I meant the content that is discussed and stuff is confidential and aren't to be discussed.

Someone I know had the excellent idea of reporting the anti-LGB Alliance petition to change.org for its homophobic premise, so I’ve just done that. great idea!

I do. And am trained in safeguarding. Get out of town!

However I meant the content that is discussed and stuff is confidential and aren't to be discussed.

You tell the children and young people that they are not to dicuss the content in your lessons because of 'confidentiality'?

@R0wantrees

However I meant the content that is discussed and stuff is confidential and aren't to be discussed.

You tell the children and young people that they are not to dicuss the content in your lessons because of 'confidentiality'?

If they want to they can do. That's fine. But I can't as a Facilitator. They do have to keep any personal accounts and discussions that come up confidential though. In order to create a safe space.

I mean in terms of our resources

Trying to remember which group it was that was trying to insist their RSE were confidential and couldn't be ahown to parents despite there being a requirement to show parents said resources... I am sure it will come back to me. But I qould be very wary of any organisation wishing to show things to my children they are not prepared to show to me. Especially when they think using a film saying porn is fine is ok, or appear to have abaolutely no understanding of tge Equality Act.

@Scepticaltank

I agree Absinthe I just think that "disgusting" went far too far frankly.

Well done again to LGB Alliance. I look forward to them STARTING their charity work, they have only been a charity FOR A DAY so I can't wait to see what they will DO NOW THEY ARE A CHARITY and are permitted to start BEING A CHARITY, I hope to not see too much more disgust at the lack of CHARITY WORK before they were ACTUALLY A CHARITY.

Indeed!

If they want to they can do. That's fine. But I can't as a Facilitator. They do have to keep any personal accounts and discussions that come up confidential though. In order to create a safe space.

Are there teachers also present when you run these sessions?

@R0wantrees

If they want to they can do. That's fine. But I can't as a Facilitator. They do have to keep any personal accounts and discussions that come up confidential though. In order to create a safe space.

Are there teachers also present when you run these sessions?

I can't discuss anything further about how the sessions are run or anything.

I can't discuss anything further about how the sessions are run or anything.

That's an additional Safeguarding concern on top of numerous others indicated by your posts on this thread.

Obviously other than for safeguarding reasons. I mean in terms of our resources and the conversations brought up in class (as long as they don't harm others or themselves).

So, concerned parents cannot know what you are using as resources to teach their children about sex and relationships?

By the way everything I've discussed isn't just based on the organization I work for or anything. This is what everyone who teaches RSE follows. They all legally follow this pattern. But more indepth questions won't be answered.

There's a word I know for adults who like to make kids keep secrets but somehow it's slipped my mind. I'm sure someone trained in safeguarding would know what it is.

Yes I teach RSE. I work alongside doctors who are gender specialist and sexual health specialists. Sadly no I cannot discuss it publically due to privacy laws and confidencality.

This gives a strong indication that ASugarr works for a gender identity service of some kind.

There can be no organisation that can legally decline to disclose the resources being taught to teenagers under 18 surely? Or is it 16?

This gives a strong indication that ASugarr works for a gender identity service of some kind

Sounds like it might be safer for all concerned if they just stuck to The Apprentice.

@MoltenLasagne

There's a word I know for adults who like to make kids keep secrets but somehow it's slipped my mind. I'm sure someone trained in safeguarding would know what it is.

They can talk about the class itself. They can't disclose stuff like a girl mentioning she's taken a pregnancy test before and stuff like that. But they can spread the education information out, just not anything personal.

Parents, carers, governors and Social Workers should all take from this thread how important the work of LGB Alliance, Safe Schools Alliance and Transgender Trend is in ensuring that schools take seriously their statuatory responsibility to scrutinise the resources and practices of external agencies and facilitators of RSE sessions.

www.transgendertrend.com/department-for-education-rse-guidance-schools/
(extract)
"The new Department for Education guidance on the teaching of Relationships and Sex Education re-establishes common-sense and evidence-based reality in schools. Although the new guidelines are for the RSE and PSHE curriculum, schools will want to ensure their policies outside this specific curriculum area are not in breach of the new guidance."

Department of Education
Schools are responsible for ensuring that speakers, tools and resources do not undermine the fundamental British values of democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty, and mutual respect and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs.

When deciding on the external agencies and resources to use, you should make appropriate checks to ensure that the agencies’ approach to teaching relationships education, relationships and sex education and health education and the resources that they plan to use comply with:

your school’s policy
the Teaching Standards
the Equality Act 2010
the Human Rights Act 1998
the Education Act 1996
You should engage with agencies to ensure their approach to teaching about relationships education, relationships and sex education and health education is balanced and the resources they intend to use are age-appropriate and aligned to the developmental stage of the pupils being taught. Schools should exercise their judgement reasonably, in line with their legal responsibilities, in the selection of providers and resources to be used. You should exercise extreme caution when working with external agencies and proceed only if you have full confidence in the agency, its approach and the resources it uses.

Schools should not under any circumstances work with external agencies that take or promote extreme positions or use materials produced by such agencies."
www.gov.uk/guidance/plan-your-relationships-sex-and-health-curriculum#using-external-agencies

@ASugarr

By the way everything I've discussed isn't just based on the organization I work for or anything. This is what everyone who teaches RSE follows. They all legally follow this pattern. But more indepth questions won't be answered.

No, it REALLY is not! What you are describing is a bastardised version of safeguarding and RSE sessions.

If you are doing precisely what you say you are then you are breaking the law! Seriously get some outside legal advice, protect yourself, if not your clients!

It is worth noting, as a general point, that anyone who works with young people will have 'had safeguarding training'.

This usually centres on the importance of a) neither promising nor advocating for 'confidentiality' & b) referring any & all concerns to more qualified colleagues.

I've taught for over 20 years. My safeguarding training is updated regularly.

But as I am not the DSL, the bottom line is that my responsibility is to report to the DSL if I have any concerns, at all.

There is absolutely zero place for 'confidentiality' in safeguarding. Massive 🚩 if anyone starts talking about doing 'confidential' work with children - the kindest possible interpretation would be immense naivety & a need for further training.

They can talk about the class itself. They can't disclose stuff like a girl mentioning she's taken a pregnancy test before and stuff like that. But they can spread the education information out, just not anything personal.

Do you explain this with the same amount of clarity that you have done here?

It seems rather plausible that teenagers (presumably under 18) are being given information and shown material about sex and relationships in your course which they feel obliged to keep secret.

Department of Education (as linked above)

Using External Agencies:
"You should also conduct a basic online search (as parents and carers may do this). It is important that anything you or parents and carers would be concerned about is addressed beforehand.

Before a session with an external speaker, it is important to check protocols for taking pictures or using any personal data the external speaker may get from the session.

Remember teachers should not be afraid to say ‘no’, or in extreme cases stop a session. These are your pupils and you are responsible for what is said to them.

It is good practice for the teacher to be in the room, so they know what was discussed and can follow up with their pupils. They will also understand what has been discussed if a pupil makes a disclosure later."

@PotholeHellhole

They can talk about the class itself. They can't disclose stuff like a girl mentioning she's taken a pregnancy test before and stuff like that. But they can spread the education information out, just not anything personal.

Do you explain this with the same amount of clarity that you have done here?

It seems rather plausible that teenagers (presumably under 18) are being given information and shown material about sex and relationships in your course which they feel obliged to keep secret.

It's much easier to explain in person. Plus people here have taken a lot of it out of context (or don't understand which is fine).