LGB Alliance is now a registered charity

[OhHolyJesus]

It took over a year...

"LGBA applied to register as a charity in March 2020. Its purposes are to promote equality and diversity and human rights.
The test of charity status is set out in law. A charity is an organisation with exclusively charitable purposes for the public benefit, that is subject to the jurisdiction of the High Court of England and Wales. If it meets these legal tests, it will be entered on the charity register.
It is not the Commission’s role to make value judgements about the aims or ideas put forward by any organisation. Instead, its role is to decide whether an organisation’s purposes fall within the legal definition of charity.
The Commission received a number of objections to the registration of LGBA as a charity. It carefully considered these as part of making its decision. In handling this application, the Commission has had regard to the Public Sector Equality Duty.
Registered charities fall under the Commission’s regulation, and their trustees must continuously meet the legal duties and responsibilities set down under charity law. A charity can promote the rights of one or more specific groups, but may not do so whilst demeaning or denigrating the rights of others, including on social media – and the Commission will consider taking regulatory action where that occurs.
The full decision, explaining the grounds for registering the organisation and the objections that were considered, can be found on GOV.UKK_"

www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-confirms-registration-of-lgb-alliance

And supports a lot more toxic subjects. And as someone who is LGB myself I find their practices harmful and hateful. They don't support others, they tear down those who don't support them. That's not what a charity is

Thats a lot of words but no actual examples of them doing anything wrong?
They clearly do support others if they didn't they would not have received charity status.
There are many many supporters of LGBA.

Is this more about you just having a tantrum and demanding everyone believes what you?

I think we definitely need to take a leaf out of their book and start mass complaining about organisations such as stonewall, and mermaids, who are negatively impacting on the rights of other groups.

@ANewCreation

LGBAlliance are a charity for people who are same- sex attracted.

Stonewall, on the other hand, are now a charity for people who are same- gender attracted.

Sex is not the same as gender.

Can't really understand why Stonewall et al are making such a fuss - surely they have totally different USPs?!

I think the marketplace is big enough for both, and I’m quite amazed that people can think otherwise. WHAT ABOUT THE SQUIRRELS?!!? indeed.

Unless, of course, the existence of a charity pursuing analogous but differnt aims exposes something they’d rather was left unsaid?

@R0wantrees

LGB Alliance Registered Charity Number 1194148 lgballiance.org.uk/about/

"Our Vision
“Lesbians, gay men and bisexuals living free from discrimination or disadvantage
based on their sexual orientation.”

While we have seen many advances in legal protections for lesbians, gay men and bisexuals, this has not yet translated into practice in all aspects of our personal, professional and political lives. The advances and protections we have won in the UK and many other Western countries are not yet replicated in all parts of the world. Even in countries that have seen such advances for lesbians, gay men and bisexual people, our rights, culture, and history are now under threat from new ideologies conflating biological sex with the notion of gender identity and replacing ‘sex’ with ‘gender’, thereby erasing same-sex sexual orientation. As lesbians, gay men, and bisexuals we want to be free to openly celebrate who we are.

Our Mission
To advance lesbian, gay and bisexual rights
We advance the interests of lesbians, gay men and bisexuals, and stand up for our right to live as same-sex attracted people without discrimination or disadvantage. We will ensure that the voices of lesbians, gay men and bisexuals are heard in all public and political discussions affecting our lives.

To highlight the dual discrimination faced by lesbians
We amplify the voices of lesbians and highlight the dual discrimination experienced by lesbians as women who are same-sex attracted in a male-dominated society.

To protect children who may grow up to be lesbian, gay, or bisexual
We work to protect children from harmful, unscientific ideologies that may lead them to believe either their personality or their body is in need of changing. Any child growing up to be lesbian, gay or bisexual has the right to be happy and confident about their sexuality and who they are.

To promote free speech on lesbian, gay and bisexual issues
We promote freedom of speech and informed dialogue on issues concerning the rights of lesbians, gay men and bisexuals. We assert that different opinions, even those we may disagree with, should be heard as part of the public debate." (continues)

It's interesting though because they only support cisgender lesbians, gays and bisexuals. And even then they have made biphobic comments and homophobic comments to those who see transgender people as equal and all.

@LastRoloIsMine

And supports a lot more toxic subjects. And as someone who is LGB myself I find their practices harmful and hateful. They don't support others, they tear down those who don't support them. That's not what a charity is

Thats a lot of words but no actual examples of them doing anything wrong?
They clearly do support others if they didn't they would not have received charity status.
There are many many supporters of LGBA.

Is this more about you just having a tantrum and demanding everyone believes what you?

I've given links to examples yesterday in this thread.

Myth: LGB Alliance is transphobic and is seeking to erase trans people
Truth: We fully support trans people in their struggle, for dignity, respect and a life lived free from bigotry and fear. We don’t hate trans people and we don’t wish to see them erased. The issues and priorities for people who are attracted to the same sex (homosexual/bisexual) are different from those of transgender people, and so, with a number of organisations focused on trans people and trans issues, our focus is on lesbians, gay men, and bisexual people and their issues

Myth: LGB Alliance wants to exclude the T from LGBT+
Truth: It’s no secret that lesbians and gay men don’t always get on or see eye to eye, and both groups often forget about bisexual people. We’re not a single homogenous group and we naturally have our different issues, opinions, and priorities. However, we do have one thing that binds us: our sexual orientation and attraction to people of the same sex
LGB Alliance is not the only organisation that campaigns or provides services/support for a specific sub-set of the wider LGBT+ community, recognising the diversity of needs within the growing acronym. Our focus is on the needs and interests of lesbians, gay men, and bisexuals

From lgballiance.org.uk/myths/

[quote Sophoclesthefox]Myth: LGB Alliance is transphobic and is seeking to erase trans people
Truth: We fully support trans people in their struggle, for dignity, respect and a life lived free from bigotry and fear. We don’t hate trans people and we don’t wish to see them erased. The issues and priorities for people who are attracted to the same sex (homosexual/bisexual) are different from those of transgender people, and so, with a number of organisations focused on trans people and trans issues, our focus is on lesbians, gay men, and bisexual people and their issues

Myth: LGB Alliance wants to exclude the T from LGBT+
Truth: It’s no secret that lesbians and gay men don’t always get on or see eye to eye, and both groups often forget about bisexual people. We’re not a single homogenous group and we naturally have our different issues, opinions, and priorities. However, we do have one thing that binds us: our sexual orientation and attraction to people of the same sex
LGB Alliance is not the only organisation that campaigns or provides services/support for a specific sub-set of the wider LGBT+ community, recognising the diversity of needs within the growing acronym. Our focus is on the needs and interests of lesbians, gay men, and bisexuals

From lgballiance.org.uk/myths/[/quote]
That's what their website says. However I'd love for you to find anything they've done that supports transgender people and their struggle.

I find it very encouraging when an organisation (CC) looks at the facts and not at the emotional clouds of outrage. The trouble is that many who oppose the new Charity and all other things GC forget that the majority in our society understand that free speech is an essential part of any democracy. All the affront in the world wont turn this groups heads and they are likely to support LGB Alliance above any group trying to close down anyone's right to state the bloody obvious

Good look Tinsel

Personally, looking at the decisions of the CC and the arguments for those decisions, I think it is is time people complain about Stonewall, they are breaking CC's rules, that they cannot campaign on something that negatively impact the rights of other groups and we all know they are campagning to remove sex as protected characteristic from the Equality Act.

July 2018 James Kirkup thread collating evidence and near achievement of Stonewall's lobbying to remove single sex exceptions which protect girls and women from Equality Act:

(extract)
"Some facts about the events that preceded the Government statement here that the coming consultation on the Gender Recognition Act will be narrowly drawn and not affect the Equality Act’s single sex exemptions.
I offer these facts because some are claiming “there was never any question of removing/amending EA exceptions.” Those claims are either mistaken or dishonest.

August 2015
Stonewall submission to the Women & Equalities Select Committee says MPs should amend the EA to
“remove exemptions, such as access to single-sex spaces”

Jan 2016
Women & Equalities Committee says EA should be amended so that

“occupational requirements provision and / or the single-sex / separate services provision shall not apply”.

July 2016
Govt response to W&E Committee says: “we agree with the principle of this recommendation” on EA exemptions and seeks evidence for “future policy discussions” (continues)

July 2017
Stonewall commits to “advocate for the removal” of EA provisions allowing sex-based discrimination.

June 2018
Govt says:

“We are clear that we have no intention of amending the Equality Act 2010, the legislation that allows for single sex spaces.”

In sum: MPs and others told govt to amend/remove Equality Act single-sex exemptions. Govt considered doing so. Then govt ruled it out. / ends"

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Asugarr I have reported you again.

That's what their website says. However I'd love for you to find anything they've done that supports transgender people and their struggle

Why should they? That is not their remit. It is a bit like complaining that the cats protection league is not supporting dogs

They don't support others, they tear down those who don't support them. That's not what a charity is

Tell that to Stonewall.

@Mugginyouleftrightandcentre

They don't support others, they tear down those who don't support them. That's not what a charity is

Tell that to Stonewall.

Stonewall have donated their time, resources and money to thousands of schools and smaller charities across the country trying to keep LGBTQ youth safe. Having programmes for all sorts. Including the recent push to ban conversion therapy which is huge! They've done so much! Especially for young LGBTQ youth.

And here's how to make a formal complaint: www.gov.uk/complain-about-charity

Worth remembering what the Charity Commision said in the report about not being in to public benefit if a charity, eg Stonewall, actively seeks to harm a protected characteristic. We have so many examples of Stonewall doing this: seeking to remove single sex spaces; missleading select committees; providing training which gives goes against the equality act and discriminated against women. I suggest we use ASugarr handily provided link to complain against a charity which really is harming people - Stonewall.

May 2016 Magdalen Berns
"What Kind Of Fools Do Transgender UK and Stonewall Take Us For?"

NB Alex Drummond (as part of Stonewall's Trans Advisory Group) has spoken to children in schools.

@Erkrie

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Actually I've been following their work for around a year now as it was brought to my attention through work. As someone who is LGB I can't condone what they preach. And your daughter has the right to choose what she wishes when it comes to her support.

So good to learn the news! And to see the level of support and integrity here from all that are celebrating that a group catering for those same sex attracted.

This is a population that is based on sexual orientation of a kind denied by Stonewall, who is confusing sex and gender on a daily rate. Very please the LGBA can provide this very much needed service.

I cannot see why anyone is opposed to this unless they are homophobic.

All the best for the future

Asugarr MNHQ have deleted your link 3 times. Be careful as they may decide that this forum is not for you. You can post your petition link on the petition bored.

I accept my deletion and will ensure I stick within the guidelines.

I suggest we use ASugarr handily provided link to complain against a charity which really is harming people - Stonewall.

Yes, absolutely do it.

@LastRoloIsMine

Asugarr MNHQ have deleted your link 3 times. Be careful as they may decide that this forum is not for you. You can post your petition link on the petition bored.

I accept my deletion and will ensure I stick within the guidelines.

I'm in contact with them now and it is resolved.