LGB Alliance is now a registered charity

[OhHolyJesus]

It took over a year...

"LGBA applied to register as a charity in March 2020. Its purposes are to promote equality and diversity and human rights.
The test of charity status is set out in law. A charity is an organisation with exclusively charitable purposes for the public benefit, that is subject to the jurisdiction of the High Court of England and Wales. If it meets these legal tests, it will be entered on the charity register.
It is not the Commission’s role to make value judgements about the aims or ideas put forward by any organisation. Instead, its role is to decide whether an organisation’s purposes fall within the legal definition of charity.
The Commission received a number of objections to the registration of LGBA as a charity. It carefully considered these as part of making its decision. In handling this application, the Commission has had regard to the Public Sector Equality Duty.
Registered charities fall under the Commission’s regulation, and their trustees must continuously meet the legal duties and responsibilities set down under charity law. A charity can promote the rights of one or more specific groups, but may not do so whilst demeaning or denigrating the rights of others, including on social media – and the Commission will consider taking regulatory action where that occurs.
The full decision, explaining the grounds for registering the organisation and the objections that were considered, can be found on GOV.UKK_"

www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-confirms-registration-of-lgb-alliance

I’m a straight woman, but have been supportive of LGB Alliance since it’s conception. Every distinct group of people are entitled to set up their own support group. It’s is ok to positively discriminate, and exclude people (like me) who are not same sex attracted. Well done on achieving charity status!

what wonderful news

it's about time there was a charity to support same sex attracted people, it's an area that's been very under served in recent years

I don't normally gift aid, preferring my tax money to go to the state rather than donkey sanctuaries or similar, but for LGBA I think I will

Bastard exclusionary donkeys

Agreed. Completely self-absorbed jackasses with no thought for the plight of Tufty nor the Green Cross Code.

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/films/1964to1979/filmpage_tufty.htm

NB: I've only just discovered that Elsie Mills who devised Tufty for RoSPA when on to write Tufty books and make additional films beyond the safety shorts- Jolly Adventures of the Furryfolk

careyblyton.com/??=Tufty

Oh dear, I read that and wondered what ‘safety shorts’ were - along the lines of safety boots, perhaps?

I thought it was interesting how they used the Forstater judgement in the full report. They did a good job of thinking through the issues with some clarity, and they understood the need to separate belief from the manifestation of that belief (much better than the Forstater judge did). The basic fact that it is possible to advocate for lgb people, and this does not mean working against trans people, should be obvious. But it is quite important to have that principle set out by an official body like this.

Well done to those involved. It must have taken a lot of hard work.

Oh FGS let's not derail this further with talk of

Jolly Adventures of the Furryfolk

🙄😆

Seriously though

---- for Tinsel

Bloody good luck for tomorrow.

There's some special happening and I feel all warm and fuzzy. I may have been celebrating...

Great job lgb alliance 💪💪💪💪💪🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

To all the lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, trans and straight people who write constant messages of support and encouragement: thank you! To all our donors: Thank you! And to all those who oppose us: let’s sit down and have respectful discussions of the issues.
#TimeToTalk
mobile.twitter.com/ALLIANCELGB/status/1384489923730984960

Nicely done. Such a contrast to their critics!

(Rooting for you Tinsel 💪💪💪)

@Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons

To all the lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, trans and straight people who write constant messages of support and encouragement: thank you! To all our donors: Thank you! And to all those who oppose us: let’s sit down and have respectful discussions of the issues. #TimeToTalk mobile.twitter.com/ALLIANCELGB/status/1384489923730984960

Nicely done. Such a contrast to their critics!

(Rooting for you Tinsel 💪💪💪)

The replies from TRAs are predictably vitriolic and hyperbolic I hope LGBA continue to rise above such nonsense m.

According to Jolyan maugham on twitter, good law project have already looked at trying for a judicial review of the decision but don't think there's a legal case. They encourage monitoring and reporting them instead. JM said
"It's as I said in my thread this pm: if you assume LGB Alliance is a repentant sinner, you're entitled to register it. The control should come with monitoring its activities for sin, and enforcing when it does. The problem is, it's really, really hard to believe the CC will."

Interesting language of sin & repenrence there.

Good Luck Tinsel

And, it was more of a shock than it should have been to read such a thoroughly sane, evidence-based appraisal by the CC.

They said that they felt LGBA had sometimes been too confrontational on social media and that needed to change. I thought it was good that they said that….

I was mixed on this as it seems a sensible observation but also raises the spectre of an expectation of different standards of behaviour to some organisations that are more established. It signals a willingness to entertain spurious complaints on the grounds of being even-handed and some groups on social media platforms and irl might have their own impression of how well those policies work out.

@adviceseekingnamechanger thanks for the explanation!

It's as I said in my thread this pm: if you assume LGB Alliance is a repentant sinner, you're entitled to register it. The control should come with monitoring its activities for sin, and enforcing when it does. The problem is, it's really, really hard to believe the CC will.".

What weird language. What "sins" are we talking about?

This is very good news! And for @TinselAngel. Well done all.

Repentant sinner?

What is that even supposed to mean?

Bonkers. All I get from that is an image of John Knox, and someone hissing “ye shall not suffer a witch to live”.

To all the lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, trans and straight people who write constant messages of support and encouragement: thank you! To all our donors: Thank you! And to all those who oppose us: let’s sit down and have respectful discussions of the issues

I can’t imagine what there is to object to in that. And yet, people somehow manage to, by making giant seven-league boots sized jumps to “ah! But we know what you really mean when you say that- you mean you want trans people to die, you bigots”.

Again, bonkers.

The embarrassing self absorbed meeeeeeeee ness continues apace

The charity commission is severely under resourced & under pressure but is now going to have to spend even more time & money dealing with the incoherent screams of rage from people who just cannot accept that LGB ppl are perfectly entitled to have a charity just for same sex attracted people.

As for the fox botherer wombling on about judicial review. Does he seriously think anyone should be able to get a judicial review of a new charity just because they don’t agree with its charitable purpose?

Is there anyone other than you and a few very abusive newcomers who want to complain?

What would the complaint be exactly?

@LastRoloIsMine

Is there anyone other than you and a few very abusive newcomers who want to complain?

What would the complaint be exactly?

I've already previously stated my views. And I'll leave the rest for my complaint to detail.

I think the hysteria and vitriol displayed by trans supporters over this is very eye opening. None of you are even bothering to hide your bullying tactics anymore.
LGBA supports same sex attracted people what is your problem with that?

@LastRoloIsMine

I think the hysteria and vitriol displayed by trans supporters over this is very eye opening. None of you are even bothering to hide your bullying tactics anymore. LGBA supports same sex attracted people what is your problem with that?

And supports a lot more toxic subjects. And as someone who is LGB myself I find their practices harmful and hateful. They don't support others, they tear down those who don't support them. That's not what a charity is.

The embarrassing self absorbed meeeeeeeee ness continues apace

Doesn’t it just?

Cringe.

If anyone who is on this thread or reads this thread and disagrees with the Charity commissions decision, please sign this petition

Personally, looking at the decisions of the CC and the arguments for those decisions, I think it is is time people complain about Stonewall, they are breaking CC's rules, that they cannot campaign on something that negatively impact the rights of other groups and we all know they are campagning to remove sex as protected characteristic from the Equality Act. How is that not against the rules of a charity? So watch what you are asking for, Asugarr, you might never know how it ends up.

LGB Alliance

Registered Charity Number 1194148
lgballiance.org.uk/about/

"Our Vision
“Lesbians, gay men and bisexuals living free from discrimination or disadvantage
based on their sexual orientation.”

While we have seen many advances in legal protections for lesbians, gay men and bisexuals, this has not yet translated into practice in all aspects of our personal, professional and political lives. The advances and protections we have won in the UK and many other Western countries are not yet replicated in all parts of the world. Even in countries that have seen such advances for lesbians, gay men and bisexual people, our rights, culture, and history are now under threat from new ideologies conflating biological sex with the notion of gender identity and replacing ‘sex’ with ‘gender’, thereby erasing same-sex sexual orientation. As lesbians, gay men, and bisexuals we want to be free to openly celebrate who we are.

Our Mission
To advance lesbian, gay and bisexual rights
We advance the interests of lesbians, gay men and bisexuals, and stand up for our right to live as same-sex attracted people without discrimination or disadvantage. We will ensure that the voices of lesbians, gay men and bisexuals are heard in all public and political discussions affecting our lives.

To highlight the dual discrimination faced by lesbians
We amplify the voices of lesbians and highlight the dual discrimination experienced by lesbians as women who are same-sex attracted in a male-dominated society.

To protect children who may grow up to be lesbian, gay, or bisexual
We work to protect children from harmful, unscientific ideologies that may lead them to believe either their personality or their body is in need of changing. Any child growing up to be lesbian, gay or bisexual has the right to be happy and confident about their sexuality and who they are.

To promote free speech on lesbian, gay and bisexual issues
We promote freedom of speech and informed dialogue on issues concerning the rights of lesbians, gay men and bisexuals. We assert that different opinions, even those we may disagree with, should be heard as part of the public debate." (continues)

@sanluca

If anyone who is on this thread or reads this thread and disagrees with the Charity commissions decision, please sign this petition

Personally, looking at the decisions of the CC and the arguments for those decisions, I think it is is time people complain about Stonewall, they are breaking CC's rules, that they cannot campaign on something that negatively impact the rights of other groups and we all know they are campagning to remove sex as protected characteristic from the Equality Act. How is that not against the rules of a charity? So watch what you are asking for, Asugarr, you might never know how it ends up.

If that's what you wish to do, feel free. However Stonewall has forever been inclusive and actually provides support for LGBTQ+ groups and communities across the UK.