Jameela Jamil just tweeted this....

[GizmoBasil]

She's mainly being pulled apart in the comments due to, you know, lying.

No doubt in my mind that she's getting puberty blockers and the contraceptive pill mixed up.

Such a shame as I have been following her since my early 20's and found her feminism very accessible back then.

Am I being unreasonable to say she's talking nonsense??

Next time I make stuff up about loads of girls in my school I'll definitely consult Wikipedia, cheers!

@toffeebutterpopcorn

She doesn’t seem to be very... aquatinted with the truth...

Is aquatinted when you have turquoise hair?

It would be a bit of a drastic step, wouldn't it, for heavy periods?

A 13-year-old needs help with heavy periods so the doctor gives her something that would interfere with all aspects of puberty, including breast and bone development. Not to mention the well documented side effects.

Also, when would the girl come off the drugs? As soon as she does so, the heavy periods would come back.

I can understand a disinterested doctor allowing a girl to languish on the oral contraceptive pill indefinitely (at least until she wants a child) but pbs are a different kettle of fish entirely.

There is a bloke who claims to be a nurse who pops up a lot on Twitter who is also on her thread defending what she has said.

Someone else is backing up Jameela by repeatedly posting a 'gotcha' screenshot.... Of a Wikipedia entry which states that one of things that Lupron can be used for is precocious puberty.

They must just think people are just completely stupid and gullible. Every female who went to school in the 90s would know this is utter bullshit, I don't understand why she would say it?

Wikipedia's citation that they are used on girls entering puberty is where, please?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonadotropin-releasing_hormone_agonist

Also, I know a lot of women on this board struggled with their changing bodies in puberty.

However, I wasn't one of those girls - for the most part I wanted to be 'grown up' (fortunately I didn't experience catcalling etc until I was into my late teens).

Even if I had had very heavy periods (I didn't), I imagine I would have been very reluctant to take anything that kept my body in a prepubescent state when all my classmates were developing naturally. I doubt I would have been alone in holding that view.

A minute's thought would show up this nonsense for what it is. PBs have never been the obvious or desirable remedy for heavy periods in adolescents.

@Mugginyouleftrightandcentre

There is a bloke who claims to be a nurse who pops up a lot on Twitter who is also on her thread defending what she has said.

Someone else is backing up Jameela by repeatedly posting a 'gotcha' screenshot.... Of a Wikipedia entry which states that one of things that Lupron can be used for is precocious puberty.

They must just think people are just completely stupid and gullible. Every female who went to school in the 90s would know this is utter bullshit, I don't understand why she would say it?

I know exactly who you mean. Reminds me of someone in these parts.

Unfortunately, there are people who are willing to listen and take what she has said as fact. That's the problem with influencers: if people think she's wonderful then they will just accept it, no questions asked. Oh and the people making sense on the JJ's thread? They are bigoted, of course.

You didn't need to go any further than Wikipedia.

And if you go to the Heavy Menstrual Bleeding page and go to Treatment>Medications
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_menstrual_bleeding#Treatment

it says:

First line
Intrauterine device with progesterone

Second Line
Tranexamic acid an antifibrinolytic agent
Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs).
Combined oral contraceptive pills to prevent proliferation of the endometrium

Third line
Oral progestogen (e.g. norethisterone), to prevent proliferation of the endometrium
Injected progestogen (e.g. Depo provera)

Other options
Gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonist

GnRH as a treatment comes last, when all the other options (the ones like birth control that have been discussed on this thread) have been exhausted.

No doctors were, or are, dishing them out to treat heavy periods. It's taken me 10 years to get my GP to take mine seriously, there's no way they're just putting teenagers on them for heavy periods.

Malcolm Clark has taken her apart step by step. Even if you are sim enough to believe that this could have happened, the timeline doesn't work. https://twitter.com/twisterfilm/status/1382304132942413836?s=21

I find it extremely disturbing how gung ho some people are about really awful drugs being given to children, particularly when there is such powerful testimony from women like @Sophoclesthefox and @ChiefBabySniffer

Shes an irritating gobshite. She seems to have an answer for everything and has been called out many times for her tall tales!

Diagnosis and Management of Heavy Menstrual Bleeding [HMB] and Bleeding Disorders in Adolescents

nmcdn.io/e186d21f8c7946a19faed23c3da2f0da/a2fa4803e65a4165bb7fcbba6a33c0cd/files/education/webinars/jamapediatrics_borzutzky_2019_rv_190003.pdf

"It is infrequently used in adolescents solely for the indication of HMB"

You've posted something that agrees with what we've all been saying - did you mean to?

So if they are "infrequently used in adolescents solely for the indication of HMB", how likely is it that "loads of girls at Jameela's school were on them"?

It says "it is infrequently used in adolescents solely for..." though?

@yourhairiswinterfire

You didn't need to go any further than Wikipedia.

And if you go to the Heavy Menstrual Bleeding page and go to Treatment>Medications
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_menstrual_bleeding#Treatment

it says:

First line
Intrauterine device with progesterone

Second Line
Tranexamic acid an antifibrinolytic agent
Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs).
Combined oral contraceptive pills to prevent proliferation of the endometrium

Third line
Oral progestogen (e.g. norethisterone), to prevent proliferation of the endometrium
Injected progestogen (e.g. Depo provera)

Other options
Gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonist

GnRH as a treatment comes last, when all the other options (the ones like birth control that have been discussed on this thread) have been exhausted.

No doctors were, or are, dishing them out to treat heavy periods. It's taken me 10 years to get my GP to take mine seriously, there's no way they're just putting teenagers on them for heavy periods.

"GnRH as a treatment comes last, when all the other options (the ones like birth control that have been discussed on this thread) have been exhausted."

Right, so we've established that it is used to treat HMB in adolescents and none of you have any idea whether Jameela know any girls at school who were prescribed it.

@Shizuku

You didn't need to go any further than Wikipedia.

I think a wikipedia entry is a bit of a stretch as 'evidence' in this case. That would absolutely not make sense that a doctor would stop puberty to treat heavy periods when other less health compromising ways to treat heavy periods are readily available.

Any person who has had periods would probably take that wiki entry with a grain of salt before applying it to treatment of teenaged girls. Have you read any of the personal accounts on this very thread of the repercussions of taking these drugs? Read any personal accounts of the many women who were prescribed the drugs for precocious puberty?

none of you have any idea whether Jameela know any girls at school who were prescribed it

Loads. Loads of girls at her school were apparently prescribed this last-resort, rarely-prescribed treatment.

I'm willing to bet £500 no more than one at Jameela's school would have been on them. One is possible, and it might be the grain of truth. "Loads" is inconceivable.

It's a bit like the bees thing. Being attacked by 2 bees is plausible. 500 is not. (I'll take £500 on that too.)

@NecessaryScene1

So if they are "infrequently used in adolescents solely for the indication of HMB", how likely is it that "loads of girls at Jameela's school were on them"?

Well .... maybe there was a prescription happy doctor who may be facing many law suits now?

Or maybe, which is more logical, she has it mixed up with the pill.

Considering when she was a teenager, heavy menstrual bleeding was probably generally hand waved away as an issue most of the time, I would consider it more of the latter than the former.

Right, so we've established that it is used to treat HMB in adolescents and none of you have any idea whether Jameela know any girls at school who were prescribed it.

Infrequently used. The NHS website doesn't even mention them (thanks for Malcolm's thread Clymene)

Bit weird that she claims she knew ''loads of girls'' on them. What a massive coincidence that there was a cluster of girls in her school who all at the same time were suffering so badly that they were all given the exact same rare treatment...

She drives me a bit mad - sometimes I do think it isn't necessary for her 'voice' to necessarily heard about every topic......

There must be a lot of legal cases in the pipeline, all involving alumna of her school.

www.statnews.com/2017/02/02/lupron-puberty-children-health-problems/

For years, Sharissa Derricott, 30, had no idea why her body seemed to be failing. At 21, a surgeon replaced her deteriorated jaw joint. She’s been diagnosed with degenerative disc disease and fibromyalgia, a chronic pain condition. Her teeth are shedding enamel and cracking.

None of it made sense to her until she discovered a community of women online who describe similar symptoms and have one thing in common: All had taken a drug called Lupron.

Thousands of parents chose to inject their daughters with the drug, which was approved to shut down puberty in young girls but also is commonly used off-label to help short kids grow taller.

The drug’s pediatric version comes with few warnings about long-term side effects. It is also used in adults to fight prostate cancer or relieve uterine pain and the Food and Drug Administration has warnings on the drug’s adult labels about a variety of side effects.

More than 10,000 adverse event reports filed with the FDA reflect the experiences of women who’ve taken Lupron. The reports describe everything from brittle bones to faulty joints.

Right, so we've established that it is used to treat HMB in adolescents and none of you have any idea whether Jameela know any girls at school who were prescribed it.

Really. so, 'loads' of girls at her school were being treated with PBs as the last resort for HMB.

Were you a teenager having periods, heavy or not, in the 90s? If it was anything like my own experience, the doctors at the time usually hand waved it away. In the 90s. In the 90s, I was told by numerous male doctors periods were normal and just get over it. I was told by numerous female doctors that there was little anyone could do really at my age although they did at least sympathise.

It is highly unlikely that there were 'load' of girls even experiencing that degree of HMB that they required the last line of treatment, PB.

I am not sure that twisting this to suit an entrenched narrative is going to convince a forum with a majority of women who have either had personal experience of treatment of heavy periods, had a child or sibling experiencing treatment of heavy periods or knows someone at least who has, that a load of teenagers in the 90s at one particular school were treated with puberty blocker for heavy periods.

@NecessaryScene1

I'm willing to bet £500 no more than one at Jameela's school would have been on them. One is possible, and it might be the grain of truth. "Loads" is inconceivable.

It's a bit like the bees thing. Being attacked by 2 bees is plausible. 500 is not. (I'll take £500 on that too.)

There are 24,000 schools in the UK. That's a lot of girls on PBs for HMB even if it's only one per school. You better start a thread about the damage this is doing and get some campaigns going to stop it being prescribed.