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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Well, that's us told

358 replies

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 13/04/2021 20:14

lux-magazine.com/article/the-road-to-terfdom/

This is an article about Mumsnet FWR boards. Author doesn't like us. Oh dear.

OP posts:
Quaagars · 15/04/2021 01:47

@theThreeofWeevils

Another day, another handmaiden shilling for dollars
Why is a woman with a view of her own dismissed as a handmaiden? Surely that's every bit as shit as being dismissed by men for having a view they don't like? Woman says something I don't like! Quick, call her a name and dismiss her opinion straight out of hand! Angry Biscuit
Waitwhat23 · 15/04/2021 03:00

SirVixofVixHall, I love your imagery - 'the synthetic blouse with no button at the bust point' Grin

NotBadConsidering · 15/04/2021 03:04

It takes a special kind of mentality to spend any time on this forum, read about a convicted child rapist avoiding jail specifically because of their transgender status, then dismissing concerns as just a play on “real” fears.

PandorasMailbox · 15/04/2021 05:07

@GNCQ

Have you seen their "about" section?
Even the 'About' section's badly written. There's even a question mark replacing the apostrophe Confused
RabbitOfCaerbannog · 15/04/2021 06:13

[quote Ereshkigalangcleg]Perhaps she was a troll, as some commenters surmised, or maybe she was overwhelmed by the Mumsnetters, who called her a “midnight misogynist” and told her to “listen to her mum.”

Here's that particular thread, which isn't difficult to google from the direct quotes. Make up your own mind.

I got the last post Halo Wine

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4117149-Im-a-young-feminist-I-cannot-understand-your-Gender-Critical-positions[/quote]
The tone of the post is as patronising as the article. The latter of which fails entirely to unpick women's concerns or analyse them in any way, simply working from the assumption that they are wrong. Dreadfully biased journalism. But I guess we're just mums without a community who've developed a victim complex because we've been robbed of our privilege. A very charitable feminist take I'm sure.

Sophoclesthefox · 15/04/2021 06:22

Flowers for you, agentcooper

Am baffled about begonias, I know about as much about flowers as our friend Katy knows about mumsnet. I’m going to side with sirvix though, because I’m a mindless bitter female incel who can’t think for herself and who can only parrot what the tribal leaders tell her to Grin

YouSetTheTone · 15/04/2021 07:31

I was going to side with sirvix because of her excellent post with the ‘synthetic blouse with no button at the bust point’ but then I looked them up and discovered that the ‘glowing ember’ begonias were one of the FEW successes in our terracotta pots the past few years . They are a gorgeous bright, perky, burnt orange and lasted for weeks!
Are begonias the plant that normally smell a bit funny if you crush the leaves a bit though? Sort of furry leaves too.
#cameforthebegoniasandstayedforthefeminism

DaisiesandButtercups · 15/04/2021 07:35

I’ll pick up some begonias on my way to Waitrose this morning, must keep appearances! Grin

risefromyourgrave · 15/04/2021 07:51

YouSetTheTone, no that’s geraniums, a smell that will always take me back to my Nan’s greenhouse!
And I have to stick up for begonias, I too was a BERF until I got obsessed by houseplants over the lockdowns. I now have 7 various Begonia Rex cuttings sprouting in glasses on my windowsill, the leaves are so pretty!

alkanet · 15/04/2021 08:05

Risefromyourgrave

I knew someone would share my love of begonia rex. I feel validated.

Spellchecker turned that into 'begins sex.'

Helleofabore · 15/04/2021 08:32

Well. My dad used to love his Begonia Rex and even built a shade house for them. He had some spiral leaf ones too.

I love my double trailing begonias from hanging baskets. The bedding ones leave me cold with their little flowers and fleshy leaves, like they can’t decide if they are a Begonia or a Kalanchoe.

All my waffle though doesn’t change the lack of balance in this article supposedly written by a bonafide journalist.

CorvusPurpureus · 15/04/2021 08:35

Geraniums are scaly looking bastards which smell of sweaty metal.

My mum used to wake me up for school/when hungover by shaking the landing geranium in my face.

If the worst my dds have to cope with is me being Radicalised by Mumsnet, they're getting off pretty lightly ThanksGrin .

Luckily they're both Gender Critical & Geranium Critical, although I don't believe we've discussed begonias.

ConfusedAdultFemale · 15/04/2021 08:42

You bad females of MN, corrupting all us other bad females of MN. Shouldn’t we have learned to wheesht by now?

ConfusedAdultFemale · 15/04/2021 08:44

@risefromyourgrave how difficult is it to grow them indoors? I’ve so far failed at growing wild flowers and bonsai trees, though I had some gorgeous sunflowers last year (don’t advise growing these indoors. Sat on the windowsill they ended up taller than the window).

YouNoob · 15/04/2021 08:51

@ConfusedAdultFemale

You bad females of MN, corrupting all us other bad females of MN. Shouldn’t we have learned to wheesht by now?

Things I always wanted to know but too embarrassed to ask: what does wheest mean?

R0wantrees · 15/04/2021 09:00

For any young feminists who cannot understand your Gender Critical positions and are at the end of their tethers with their mother, aunt, grandmother, neighbour, collegue, teacher, lecturer, doctor, MP, favourite writer etc who has become engulfed in the gender critical discourse mainly thanks to this website , many have found this thread useful:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

AfternoonToffee · 15/04/2021 09:02

@ConfusedAdultFemale

You bad females of MN, corrupting all us other bad females of MN. Shouldn’t we have learned to wheesht by now?
How do we know which ones of us are the oppressed and who are the oppressors? Confused
NRCS · 15/04/2021 09:05

The funniest thing about all this is that our biggest crime is being middle aged Grin It just blows their tiny minds doesn't it?

RabbitOfCaerbannog · 15/04/2021 09:17

@NRCS

The funniest thing about all this is that our biggest crime is being middle aged Grin It just blows their tiny minds doesn't it?
Yes! Middle aged women are very much like those other [insert moniker for generic group of radicalised extremists] with their begonia chat and concern for the rights of biological women and girls.
alkanet · 15/04/2021 09:18

Well one moment she's saying we are all neurotic isolated new mums. In the next breath we are middle aged pearl clutchers. Does Mumsnet suddenly age you as soon as you read your first FWR post?

NRCS · 15/04/2021 09:20

I don't even know what a begonia is. Are they those slightly thick Greene leaves plants with colourful flowers or is that geraniums? Ive also worked continuously apart from mat leaves since I was 17 thanks very much patronising journalist woman.

GoingThruTheMotions · 15/04/2021 09:21

I'm not taking reading scorning for someone who couldn't even find a quote to support their JK Rowling is transphobic theory in her relatively short essay.
By the by, I waded through the Katie Montgomery 'analysis' where I found a mash up of the usual arguments, but no substance. So I think I deserve to skim an article and say it's too long and nonsensical to read. I do like to occasionally have time for reading interesting things. (Like Plop the Owl!)

GoingThruTheMotions · 15/04/2021 09:23

I don't know what a begonia is but I know Aunt Petunia had them in her garden in Harry Potter.
Maybe she was on Mumsnet. Anyone seen a aibu for letting my nephew sleep in a cupboard?

AnyOldPrion · 15/04/2021 09:27

@alkanet

Well one moment she's saying we are all neurotic isolated new mums. In the next breath we are middle aged pearl clutchers. Does Mumsnet suddenly age you as soon as you read your first FWR post?
We’re Schrödinger's Mums. As we’re all hidden in boxes, nobody knows if we are young or old, or indeed even mums at all. Therefore we are simultaneously old and young, privileged and oppressed, black and white.

But mostly ignorant. Because whether old, young, black, white, privileged or oppressed, we are the wrong kind of women.

terryleather · 15/04/2021 09:30

Things I always wanted to know but too embarrassed to ask: what does wheest mean?

Scottish phrase that means "be quiet" / "shut up"