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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The next time someone tells me TW don't have periods..

147 replies

Psuedoshoes · 11/04/2021 09:29

"I'm going to dump a whole tub of period diarrhea on them"

Charming tweet Hmm

I mean, how far is this going to have to go to appease; are we going to have to redefine biological functions to suit? Arrrgggh Gin

The next time someone tells me TW don't have periods..
The next time someone tells me TW don't have periods..
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misscockerspaniel · 11/04/2021 14:52

This reminds me of something a colleague told me last week. His 11 year old son had asked if having periods hurt. His mother replied, yes it can, why? The response was that he had been taught that boys could be girls, and that this week they had learnt about menstruation. He had come away with the impression that if he decided to be a girl, he would menstruate.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 11/04/2021 14:57

Who the hell are ‘teaching’ these kids?

EastWestWhosBest · 11/04/2021 15:01

@TammySwansonTwo

I got into a Facebook row about this the other day. You missed out a few tweets before this about crying in work meetings due to said periods.

If you receive a consistent dose of hormones daily you do not have a cycle. You also don’t have the variety of other hormones that women have involved in their cycles.

I am very tired of this, as someone whose life has been completely ruined by my stupid fucking menstrual cycles.

Quite. I take the pill constantly to stop my periods because I was fucking fed up of them. I have a consistent dose of a hormone so I don’t have a cycle. I don’t have monthly fluctuations in my feelings or physical signs.
WhoWants2Know · 11/04/2021 15:18

I also take a constant dose of hormones, with a break only once or twice each year. (Mostly because because I feel suicidal immediately before my periods, and it's "safer" to risk blood clots than killing myself.

But even with a consistent dose of hormones, my body likes to play silly buggers sometimes and surprise me with a giant flooding period that can't be contained. Because uteruses just straight up don't give a shit what about what they're "supposed" to do.

YouNoob · 11/04/2021 15:24

I just don't understand why a TW would be used for a campaign about periods in India. This is a subject in a country where there is so much shame around periods that young working women are choosing to undergo hysterectomies.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-india-48836690

Women and girls in some communities are banished to period huts. Some, even in progressive families, are not allowed to cook or touch people as they are considered as unhygienic and unclean.

The arrogance of Body Shop to use a TW to talk about period shame is beyond astounding.

AdaFuckingShelby · 11/04/2021 15:30

Using a TW to educate girls about periods really is the emporer's new clothes. Its utterly bizarre. Like a pp said, who benefits from that? Not the girls obviously

EastWestWhosBest · 11/04/2021 15:33

Women and girls in some communities are banished to period huts. Some, even in progressive families, are not allowed to cook or touch people as they are considered as unhygienic and unclean.

Yes, my friend who grew up in India wasn’t allowed in the kitchen when she had her period. This was an educated wealthy family. They would have a cool come in when her mum had her period.

Mugginyouleftrightandcentre · 11/04/2021 15:34

[quote Makingnumber2]This article seems to suggest that TW on HRT experience cyclical PMS symptoms. Obviously they don't bleed though so they get symptoms but they don't get periods.
theestablishment.co/yes-trans-women-can-get-period-symptoms-e43a43979e8c/index.html[/quote]
Transwomen do not get 'period symptoms' FFS. What they are experiencing are symptoms resulting from giving a male artifical female hormones. Absolutely fuck all to do with period symptoms.

This is just gaslighting.

EmpressSuiko · 11/04/2021 15:35

These activities are just awful, they aren’t helping the trans community. Many trans individuals have replied to this tweet saying they do not have periods, that alone is something only women can experience but their voices will be ignored as they don’t fit into the agenda of the “trans army”.

EastWestWhosBest · 11/04/2021 15:36

And what about transmen who do have periods. How does this make them feel?

Nonmaquillee · 11/04/2021 15:39

@Helleofabore

Actually, this tweet may be topical too.

twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1379703954276241411?s=21

The tweet says
The Body Shop (BS) has picked a natal male who IDs as a woman to talk about period shame in India, where 23 million girls drop out of school due to it. The person said they buy sanitary pads for 'excess vaginal discharge'. BS thanked them for raising awareness to 'menstruators'

I believe it refers to an Instagram post.

The world really has gone awry.

I shan't ever set foot in the BS again after reading this (and I am guessing that BS stands for BullShit)
toffeebutterpopcorn · 11/04/2021 15:49

That’s not period though? Any discharge - well hang on, if it’s blood they’d better get to a&e pronto.

It’s the bleeding that causes women and girls to be treated as ‘dirty’ and that plus poverty (and lack of access to sanpro and washing facilities) that is the effing shame in India.

Their spokesperson has other issues. Bloody Body Shop haven’t a chuffing clue.

YouNoob · 11/04/2021 16:28

Their spokesperson has other issues. Bloody Body Shop haven’t a chuffing clue.

I refuse to believe that they haven't a clue, are ignorant and unaware. A quick google shows you the state of period shame in India. They have their own agenda to promote.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 11/04/2021 16:39

Poor women in India must be looking at that and shaking their heads. As if they haven’t got enough to deal with (thinking of the rape/violence against women and girls, not to mention infanticide of female foetuses).

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 11/04/2021 16:50

Eh?

She can have my periods (complete with flooding, endometriosis and all the attendant pain and mess) if she wants them. I certainly don't.

What's the betting that if humans other than mere natal women suffered this monstrosity every single month there would have been millions invested in medical research aimed at relieving the indignity and discomfort?

Here's also betting that if those who strangely envied this state of affairs experienced it even once, they'd be crying about how unfair it all was, and how they were the most marginalised, discriminated-against group on the face of the planet. Oh, wait 😱

TammySwansonTwo · 11/04/2021 17:29

*Gynaecologists remain unaware of trans healthcare”

Most gynaecologists remain unaware of endometriosis, the second most common gynae condition in the U.K.

Only a handful of U.K. gynaecologists are trained in excision surgery, the gold standard treatment for that condition.

Oh, and many endocrinologists remain scarily ignorant of thyroid issues (predominantly affecting women) despite hormones being their specialism.

Let’s not pretend that healthcare has a trans blind spot. It has a non-male blind spot.

NiceGerbil · 11/04/2021 17:45

I get the shits when I have my period. It is something that some women get.

However I also get the shits sometimes when I've eaten something dodgy. When I haven't got my period.

So if you're not having a period and you have got the shits then probably you've eaten an iffy prawn or something

If you don't get periods and you're getting the shits once a month then you really need to look at your hygiene practices around food prep/ where you're getting your food/ see a doctor.

NiceGerbil · 11/04/2021 17:46

Also how does using a sanitary towel as a post surgical dressing have anything to do with period shame Confused

Mugginyouleftrightandcentre · 11/04/2021 17:52

@toffeebutterpopcorn

Poor women in India must be looking at that and shaking their heads. As if they haven’t got enough to deal with (thinking of the rape/violence against women and girls, not to mention infanticide of female foetuses).
Yes, quite. As if they need to be validating a male's idea of womanhood.

Im pretty sure they would be Hmm at the luxury belief that you can 'identify' into and out of womanhood as well, because they of all people know its not possible.

GNCQ · 11/04/2021 17:55

excess vaginal discharge
How can you get excess vaginal discharge when you don't even have a vagina? When you have an inverted penis?
How are women in India on their period going to relate to this person in any way at all?

The woke have absolutely gone mad.

Helleofabore · 11/04/2021 18:01

How are women in India on their period going to relate to this person in any way at all?

Probably in no way at all is my expectation.

Wbeezer · 11/04/2021 18:13

I used to get diarrhoea when on my period (and be sick sometimes), also every time i went into labour, my understanding of the biology is that its prostaglandins that cause it as they act on smooth muscle like the uterus and the bowel. As far as I know they don't add prostaglandins to. TWs hormone treatment. I dont think many get progestogen either and it's fluctuations in that that made me feel depressed angry and paranoid once a month. Oestrogen is only one part of the story.

ElsasFrozenVerucca · 11/04/2021 18:20

I have period diarrhoea, it makes my menorrhagia and endometriosis even harder to deal with. I have to take Imodium to go to work or do the school run. It is a thing, but mine is definitely not caused by eating ice cream because usually I am in too much pain and too nauseous to eat much at all or anything.
This is really insulting to women (who in general don't have diarrhoea with their period) and women like me who do (due to the biological sex based health conditions we have)

ElsasFrozenVerucca · 11/04/2021 18:28

As for the women in poverty shame and period poverty, I really feel that involving the western trans ideology with an already complicated gender/sex landscape is unhelpful at best. It's complicating a message that needs to be clear and indisputable, this is not a debate that should be anywhere near women's period based issues. It's such a shame we can't have two different conversations, and instead have to have women's issues and trans issues so utterly enmeshed, in a way that trans issues are not enmeshed with men's issues (go figure!)

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/04/2021 18:32

@toffeebutterpopcorn

Poor women in India must be looking at that and shaking their heads. As if they haven’t got enough to deal with (thinking of the rape/violence against women and girls, not to mention infanticide of female foetuses).
Which female MP recently admitted that she agreed that parity in Parliament would be achieved with 50% transwomen, 50% men?

Possibly the Body Shop and ilk is so blinkered they cannot see the implications of what they’re saying or else don’t care.

These sort of statements and behaviours above could lead to some wealthy societies could lead to a dystopia that a population of 50% transgirls and 50% boys is fine.

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