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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gender Criticals vandalise LGBT centre and deface memorial to trans woman.

265 replies

Shizuku · 04/04/2021 12:40

This is happening in Spain.

twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie/status/1378633917482332163

twitter.com/EcosyTinta/status/1368272074972729349

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ASugarr · 05/04/2021 14:59

It's still a horrible thing to have happened to this woman's memorial.

Mummyoflittledragon · 05/04/2021 15:01

@ASugarr
It seems it wasn’t feminists in the end. But that wouldn’t suit your narrative, would it? Ffs

334bu · 05/04/2021 15:04

Absolutely ASugar r defacing a memorial is wrong. However, I was asking about the ,"transphobia" you saw in the graffiti on the centre. I didn't see any . Could you point it out?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/04/2021 15:09

I wonder if trans groups also condemned the damage done to women’s memorial murals?

GoingThruTheMotions · 05/04/2021 15:10

Careful. You might get misread as, "I eat tiny kittens" or something.

FeckTheMagicDragon · 05/04/2021 15:11

Ok, can someone tell me what rule I broke? I was musing on the reaction and anger of women and why my personal sympathies have gone out the window?

RedDogsBeg · 05/04/2021 15:16

@FeckTheMagicDragon

Ok, can someone tell me what rule I broke? I was musing on the reaction and anger of women and why my personal sympathies have gone out the window?
Your post went so quick I didn't see it, perhaps you used some banned words or terms. E-mail MNHQ and ask them why.
GoingThruTheMotions · 05/04/2021 15:21

I heard that the trusty regular acronym is now a banned term. Did your post feature that?

adviceseekingnamechanger · 05/04/2021 15:31

@ASugarr

It's still a horrible thing to have happened to this woman's memorial.
And so surprisingly, zero comment on the fact that it wasn't actually GC feminists, as you and the OP want it to be. Tough luck, guys. We're not as awful you want to repeatedly suggest we are. GC feminists haven't committed any murders either.
YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/04/2021 15:32

Yeah, I’m feeling somewhat unjustly maligned by the title of this post.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 05/04/2021 15:33

So who did it? Did I miss something?

Mummyoflittledragon · 05/04/2021 15:34

Feck
You will have used a banned word or phrase. There are now algorithms to delete certain words.

Mummyoflittledragon · 05/04/2021 15:34

@toffeebutterpopcorn

So who did it? Did I miss something?
Looks like the same people as defaced the mural.
toffeebutterpopcorn · 05/04/2021 15:35

How do they know? Interesting plot twist though eh?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/04/2021 15:36

Lists of banned words would be useful then.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 05/04/2021 15:38

I bet a teensy word beginning and ending in ‘c’ isn’t on there...

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/04/2021 15:40

I think it’s been recently deleted from the banned list ...

GoingThruTheMotions · 05/04/2021 15:42

I really, really hate the c word. To me it sounds almost onomatopoeic, like a tiny little whisper no one cares to hear. I also don't like the connotations with the word that means silly, weak and girlish.

Soontobe60 · 05/04/2021 15:44

@Shizuku

This thread is a masterclass in whataboutery.
If everybody just replied ‘ yes, vandalism is bad’, you’d have no one to argue with!
Mummyoflittledragon · 05/04/2021 15:44

Yes a list would be very useful perhaps the fear is it would be circulated and used against Mumsnet.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/04/2021 15:45

It makes me feel sick to be called the c word, even more so when those using it are so sensitive about language we must use for them.

Mummyoflittledragon · 05/04/2021 15:45

I’m struggling to think what the c word is. Not trying to get anyone deleted obvs....

Soontobe60 · 05/04/2021 15:46

To any trans person, it's obvious

What about those trans people who vehemently declare that sex most certainly does NOT equal gender?

MissBarbary · 05/04/2021 15:50

[quote Hilarias]Interestingly this article in the Spanish newspaper El Pais links the graffiti on Cristina Ortiz’s memorial with two other acts of vandalism of feminist murals/memorials for International Women’s Day, most likely carried out by supporters of the far right party, Vox:

“Feminist mural in Madrid vandalized on International Women’s Day

The faces of the 15 women depicted in the mural were covered with black spray paint. The perpetrators, who called themselves Revolutio, left a note describing feminism as “one of the bêtes noires of our era.”
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This was the third act of vandalism registered in just a few hours: on Sunday, another feminist mural in the nearby city of Alcalá de Henares was damaged after being inaugurated just two days earlier. Mayor Javier Rodríguez Palacios, of the PSOE, called the attack “an assault against all of society.” A plaque honoring trans icon Cristina Ortiz, known as La Veneno, in the Parque del Oeste in Madrid, was also spray-painted with a message against the government’s draft law on trans rights.”

english.elpais.com/society/2021-03-08/feminist-mural-in-madrid-vandalized-on-international-womens-day.html[/quote]
How do you get to the conclusion that the graffiti on the trans woman's memorial was carried out by the same group who sprayed the anti- feminist graffiti?

Do far right anti- feminist groups use the exact same sloganeering as radical feminists?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/04/2021 15:50

Rhymes with sis.