Laurence Fox answers Women’s Place UK questions

[ChristinaXYZ]

As a candidate for London mayor Laurence Fox has answered five questions on women's rights and it is a breath of fresh air. Highlights being:

First of all, the police cannot protect what it does not define. We acknowledge that women are adult human females. They are vulnerable as a result of biological sex.

Acknowledge that The Equality Act 2010 provides legislative protection for women by virtue of their sex. We will enforce it without fear or favour and protect the rights of women to single sex spaces.

Ring fence funding for single-sex refuges and support services

Read his full answers here:

laurencefoxforlondon.co.uk/news/answering-womens-place-uks-5-questions/

Lets hope this puts pressure on the other candidates

I know the person who wrote those answers for him. She is heavily involved in FPFW.

My personal opinion is that he doesn't give a shit about women or anything other than himself. But he's well schooled in PR and how to keep his name in the media.

My personal opinion is that he doesn't give a shit about women or anything other than himself. But he's well schooled in PR and how to keep his name in the media.

Sounds like he's got what it takes to be a politician.

@RNBrie

I know the person who wrote those answers for him. She is heavily involved in FPFW.

My personal opinion is that he doesn't give a shit about women or anything other than himself. But he's well schooled in PR and how to keep his name in the media.

Oh, someone else wrote the answers?

Well that explains why they were so surprisingly sensible on the NON-GC stuff.

I don't like him. I think he's a self obsessed twat.

And I think Billie worked that out pdq.

@PotholeHellhole

P.S.

With this post of mine, this thread will reach 125 posts. Less than ten of those were in favour of LF for Mayor of London.

So I need to know what thread Hibari is reading, where "a lot of posters" are saying they support LF.

Yours,
Confused of Chelmsford

Ten is a lot for how much of a racist wanker he is.

@PotholeHellhole

^Seeing a lot of posters here rush to sign onto the idea that he's all right. same with Ngo and Peterson when their threads popped up.^

&At least in this case, I'm seeing more pushback. Probably because people are more knowledgeable about an English wanker and American ones.^

Finally! The intellectual break-through comes!

We did keep telling you that this is a British site, that we had no idea who these people were and we weren't going to be able to condemn them without evidence.

If you know of them and you have an opinion on them, it is your job to convince us that they are wankers.

If you would like a model on how to do this, you could do worse than look at my own posts in this thread about Fox. As you can (presumably) deduce, I don't like him that much and I have explained why. I even linked to his star turn on the Delingpod.

I've lived in England for 25 years.

I just pay more attention to global happenings, I guess?

His comments about white privilege not existing were particularly idiotic given the role that made him famous, which I very much doubt would have been open to a woman or someone of colour.

Talk about the blindness of white male privilege.

Regardless of Fox's opinions about anything it seems like a dreadful idea to elect someone who has spent their entire career as an actor into a position like MoL.

What experience does he have for a role I assume is pretty complex and requires a good understanding of governance?

My decade spent working in local government makes me more qualified on paper and I'd be a dreadful choice for the job.

I understand why people seek out alternatives because so many public officials and politicians seem to have zero backbone these days but I don't think electing completely unsuitable and inexperienced candidates is the answer.

I've nothing against anyone wishing to get into politics but going straight for something as high profile as the MoL does smack of arrogance and hubris. The sensible route for most people is to start small and learn the ropes in local elections as a councillor or similar.

Perhaps he has no illusions about winning (I haven't followed his campaign) and the purpose is just to make noise and get in the press but with all the surprise elections we've had in the last 5 years there's no guarantee that it wouldn't come to pass.

Spot on, ova.

As to the other point, lots of people will see "Laurence Fox" in the thread title, will think "ffs not that gobshite again" and won't want to read the thread to save their sanity...

But if arsehole men are using what is said for their own purposes ( and they are) it doesn't mean we should stop.

Exactly - I'm not going to go, 'do you know what, I'm going to totally abandon my belief in biological sex and women's right to single sex provision because the people I'm generally politically aligned with seem to have abandoned women for woke cookies and the only people who are actually speaking out on it are the likes of LF, so...... No more single sex spaces! Puberty blockers for kids! Erasure of women as a sex class! But at least I'll be on the same side as Owen Jones..... '

No doubt this thread will end up on Twitter as an example of' Mumsnet being in cahoots with the alt-right' despite the fact that most of the posts here have been critical of LF and analysing why this is happening and how it has happened before.

Oh and with regards to what 'alt-right' is... I think it means 'any view that doesn't align exactly with mine'.

TBH, I'm one of those agressive northern women and I really couldn't give a shit about what seems to be a largely ceremonial position which gave us Boris on a zipwire as a memorable contribution to the job.

But I find it very typical of the woke-left to pounce on any of this as so-called evidence of how we're all evil t*rfs because it completely ignores that a huge chunk of the country IMO essentially sees London as a different country and very far removed from northern working class lives. Remember them? They used to vote Labour.

As a PP put it:

"Could we be out of touch? No, it's the people who are wrong."

Anyway! I think I need another brew now

What experience does he have for a role I assume is pretty complex and requires a good understanding of governance?

Indeed. But what use is someone with experience if they don't have the spine to say they know what a woman is, lest some crazed blue-hairs start shrieking?

I'd love to have someone with experience + a spine, but if I'm forced to go with one, I tend to choose the spine.

Khan can't answer the question

It's not about electing him for heaven's sake - it's about the debate. Who else is going to raise difficult questions and expose the hypocrisy of current politicians. See video above.
Shaun Bailey doesn't seem to be making much headway at the moment - it will be interesting to see how he reacts.

@Imnobody4

It's not about electing him for heaven's sake - it's about the debate. Who else is going to raise difficult questions and expose the hypocrisy of current politicians. See video above. Shaun Bailey doesn't seem to be making much headway at the moment - it will be interesting to see how he reacts.

Yup. Anything that gives this debate more attention is useful imo.

OMG that video!

I'm pretty sure you can see Sadiq looking at his bingo card - straight out of the block with suicidal trans kids, you are conflating sex and gender, inciting hatred, just be kind blah blah blah.

For God's sake, whatever you do Sadiq, don't answer any difficult questions, always stick to the script!

Also, that guy at the end had clearly missed the whole House of Lords Maternity Bill 'mother' thing!

Dick "TBH, I'm one of those agressive northern women and I really couldn't give a shit about what seems to be a largely ceremonial position which gave us Boris on a zipwire as a memorable contribution to the job."

There's a 9% increase in the tax I pay and I can't get the bus anywhere due to LTNs. It's not ceremonial. They can spend our money and crap on our lives.

Between him and Sean Bailey, I think I would very slightly go for LF. Because he's not afraid to challenge and ask difficult questions. But there's not much in it. I'd be happy enough with either. Sadiq needs to go without a doubt.

@Erkrie

Between him and Sean Bailey, I think I would very slightly go for LF. Because he's not afraid to challenge and ask difficult questions. But there's not much in it. I'd be happy enough with either. Sadiq needs to go without a doubt.

Building may be the difference

Last I heard

Sadiq wants to build on everything

Shaun wants to build what Sadiq what would build amd then build on top of that

Hopefully LF wants the building to calm down especially as none of it is sold in the UK anyway.

Lawrence Fox uses a lot of MRA language - he's not on the side of women.

I hope he slides back into oblivion soon. I'm GC, but apart from that my views don't align with his at all.

[quote OhHolyJesus]Khan can't answer the question

[/quote] That David Kurten is apparently running for Mayor also?

@NecessaryScene1

What experience does he have for a role I assume is pretty complex and requires a good understanding of governance?

Indeed. But what use is someone with experience if they don't have the spine to say they know what a woman is, lest some crazed blue-hairs start shrieking?

I'd love to have someone with experience + a spine, but if I'm forced to go with one, I tend to choose the spine.

I do understand that but the position of Mayor of London comes with a really wide remit and identity politics really are a tiny part of the bigger picture in terms of what the elected person's responsibilities are.

This below is some of what is asked of a Mayor

www.london.gov.uk/about-us/mayor-london/mayor-and-his-team/role-mayor-london

The Mayor sets an overall vision for London. He has a duty to create plans and policies for the capital covering:

Arts & Culture
Business & Economy
Environment
Fire
Health
Housing and Land
Planning
Policing & Crime
Regeneration
Sport
Transport
Young People
Other priorities for the Mayor include higher education, foreign Investment and attracting events and conferences to London.

This is how much budget they are responsible for;

The Mayor’s £17bn annual budget supports investment in public transport, fire services and policing as well as the work of City Hall.

It is financed from a mixture of central government grants, transport fares and other charges, business rates and council tax.

Now I'm not saying Khan or previous Mayors like Johnson have done a top notch job, to be honest I don't really know because I've never lived in London. But I do think it's an extraordinary amount of power to potentially give to someone whose only adult experience is being an actor and household name.

Yes he appears to understand that woman = adult female and doesn't have time for identity politics but that's a low bar of qualification to run for office on.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is I don't like or agree with the way Sadiq Khan sometimes frames issues through a prism of identity politics but the day to day lives of Londoners must be more affected by how well the city is run outside of the twitter virtual signalling we see from time to time. For all his faults Khan did have a lengthy career in both law and politics before becoming Mayor including a stint as Minster for Transport - something directly pertinent to London life.

I really wish more politicians would have backbone on this issue especially when confronted with absurdities and harms but neither do I wish to see opinionated actors handed 17bn to play with even if I agree with some of their opinions.

That David Kurten is apparently running for Mayor also?

Ahh ok. I don't know much about him, but so far so good.

It’s like when Piers Morgan was talking common sense - he’s still a horrible entitled person - we need more representation from men who aren’t problematic and the males who are keeping silence on it ARE problematic.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day