Sisters Uncut

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Sisters uncut who are said to be a driving force in turning last nights gathering from a vigil to a protest are now protesting on behalf of “women murdered by the state”.

Two of these “women” are rapists who brutalised children.

How can anyone be ok with this?

And here's a great tweet from Sisters Uncut demonstrating how you can co-opt women's anger into something where women are a hyphenated addendum to a project that is waaaay out there.

Project being the dismantling of the police.

It was also my understanding that the 'Uncut' related to male genitalia. Maybe that's not how it started out, but that's certainly what it appears to represent.

And yes, they endorsed the violence to Maria Mach at speakers corner. Even to the point of, when asked if it was a proportionate reaction, the answer was absolutely.

Hitting a woman.

The idea that they support women is laughable.

I sincerely hope the press don't just skim this story. Looks like Janice Turner is shining a light. I love that woman.

Sidenote: there ARE women in Sisters Uncut (what the would call "cis" women.

whilst the group that suggested the demo in the first place have hoovered up £500,000K with no accountability, structure, plans but a twitter account, Facebook page and all your donations

That's a pretty strong insinuation of wrongdoing levelled against Reclaim These Streets there. Presumably in response to having their demands rejected that their fines should be paid out of RTS's fundraiser?

It's depressing that money donated by women is now going to fund a bunch of out-there movement-hi-jackers.

Indeed, I'm tempted to call them wreckers.

Im on the reclaim these streets facebook page.
I saw that post and a couple of the replies, mostly about the legalities of moving funds from one place to another without transparency.
And another referencing the manchester spinners anti rape protest being counter protested by sisters uncut, that lady was quite adamant 'they won't get a penny from me' or words to that effect.
I lost the tread after that, will go and have a look now.

I'd suggest that what has happened, what is happening right now, is a pushing of the knowledge & resulting protest - by women - of the fact that women are a group who are harmed as women by male power into the background again.

From what I saw of the livestream last night the protest was probably 80% women and all of the speakers I saw were women except for one trans man. All the speeches I listened to were about male violence, which at times included criticism of the police and police bill but that's hardly surprising given what took place the night before.

A few shouty male anti-maskers appear to be trying to latch onto it but they were regularly challenged and prevented from speaking. That's probably inevitable at the moment, you can't stop people turning up, but they were well dealt with and there only seemed to be a handful of them.

My only experience of Sisters Uncut was some rather nasty graffiti in a toilet in a pub on Leith Walk Edinburgh. Seems they don't like the idea of women having their own toilets.

@SunsetBeetch

Sidenote: there ARE women in Sisters Uncut (what the would call "cis" women.

Yup. One of them, when told that they were drowning out the voices of survivors of male violence with their banging on pots, cheerfully replied that she didn't care.

The organisers were rather taken aback at that callous disregard for survivors from a member of a group supposedly campaigning on behalf of survivors.

But maybe that's just the Scottish member groups of SU?

@thecatfromjapan

It's depressing that money donated by women is now going to fund a bunch of out-there movement-hi-jackers.

Indeed, I'm tempted to call them wreckers.

They've just organised the largest feminist protest the UK has seen for probably over a decade, and put themselves in the firing line to do it. I'd hardly call them wreckers.

Sunlight! Zac Goldsmith is tweeting about Sisters Uncut and their support of male rapists that identify as women.

twitter.com/zacgoldsmith/status/1371436985731198976?s=21

They've just organised the largest feminist protest the UK has seen for probably over a decade, and put themselves in the firing line to do it. I'd hardly call them wreckers.

No, they hijacked it.

You might admire a group that hold rapists and pedophiles up as martyr's to their cause, but I don't.

They've just organised the largest feminist protest the UK has seen for probably over a decade

Did they throw the first brick?

Revisionist history's getting fast these days.

jj I wonder.

I reckon that

• a lot of women don't realise the 'project' they've 'joined' is actually to dismantle the police.

Is that even a 'feminist' project?

I reckon they've both widened it out so much as to make it meaningless

And

Turned the focus to something that will cause women to peel away, disheartened.

I reckon it's a lethal move - and typical: get in early; kill potential feminist projects in the cradle; suck up women's energy; leave women demoralised and sidelined, yet again.

@PronounssheRa

They've just organised the largest feminist protest the UK has seen for probably over a decade, and put themselves in the firing line to do it. I'd hardly call them wreckers.

No, they hijacked it.

You might admire a group that hold rapists and pedophiles up as martyr's to their cause, but I don't.

Wow mrsgrumpytrousers

The arrogance of the person quoted. They really can't imagine that, without Sisters Uncut acting as chaperone, that hundreds of local women wouldn't have quietly turned up, laid flowers, and remembered Sarah.

@PronounssheRa

They've just organised the largest feminist protest the UK has seen for probably over a decade, and put themselves in the firing line to do it. I'd hardly call them wreckers.

No, they hijacked it.

You might admire a group that hold rapists and pedophiles up as martyr's to their cause, but I don't.

I was talking about the protest outside Scotland yard last night. And they didn't hijack the vigil, from what I can tell they decided to go ahead with it after the initial organisers pulled out due to police pressure and that decision was hugely popular hence the large attendence.

They've just organised the largest feminist protest the UK has seen for probably over a decade, and put themselves in the firing line to do it. I'd hardly call them wreckers.

No. You wouldn’t.

Yes, they don't want to arrest or imprison even the most serious of sex offenders and they want to abolish all female-only spaces. One might be forgiven for thinking they have an incredibly sinister incel agenda.

Didn't one of them, an Oxbridge graduate with a cushy middle-class job, break the glasses of a Mumsnet member leaving a feminist meeting?

- a lot of women don't realise the 'project' they've 'joined' is actually to dismantle the police.

I think the hundreds of women who surrounded Scotland Yard last night chanting fuck the police are well aware of what they've joined. Feminists have long had an analysis of how patriarchal institutions like the police perpetuate male violence and they are carrying on in that tradition.

It seems from twitter that JustGiving are looking into it all & women asking fir refunds are being reassured they’ll get them

I do think that many of the people who are joining in the protest have no idea about some of the motives of Sisters Uncut.

I think it is reasonable to want to know where the money is going to. The very minimum standard you want from a group that protests about male violence against women is that they would support all women who were victims of violence rather than their abusers.

They also protested against cocercive control being made an offence.

Helen Lewis has a good thread about them and she pointed out that being against prison doesn’t necessarily mean being against prison for all cases and has a good podcast to listen to.

mobile.twitter.com/helenlewis/status/1371395641998462981

Did they also set off smoke bombs at Grenfell Tower or was that a different group?

One of the main issues in the Sarah Everard case is that the police didn't police enough; Sisters Uncut wouldn't have them police at all. I think the public need to be aware that this very vocal group don't want the man who did this locked up.

[quote CaveMum]Sunlight! Zac Goldsmith is tweeting about Sisters Uncut and their support of male rapists that identify as women.

twitter.com/zacgoldsmith/status/1371436985731198976?s=21[/quote]
I see people have tagged in Baroness Nicholson, Julia Hartley-Brewer and Helen Lewis. Good. Sunlight.

Re. Reclaim These Streets, the Anna mentioned above is Anna Birley. Saw her on the news the other day and thought she looked familiar, then she mentioned she was at the same uni as Sarah Everard, as was I, so I looked her up. See pic.