Sisters Uncut

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Sisters uncut who are said to be a driving force in turning last nights gathering from a vigil to a protest are now protesting on behalf of “women murdered by the state”.

Two of these “women” are rapists who brutalised children.

How can anyone be ok with this?

Although I think the police should have handled the CC event very differently, SU had no business hijacking the vigil and appropriating an event originally organised by another group.

They have an absolute barefaced cheek now demanding that the original organisers donate money to pay their fines and legal costs.

The original organisers cancelled the event and replaced it with a fundraiser specifically because they did not want money to go in fines, but to women’s’ charities.

SU think that means them 🙄.

I will be well pissed off if the organisers give any of the fund I donated to to this lot.

*They have an absolute barefaced cheek now demanding that the original organisers donate money to pay their fines and legal costs.
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This is pretty outrageous.

I don’t know how the press isn’t picking this up? And the other group. Are they just too scared to comment negatively on any ‘woman’s’ organisation for fear of being called sexist?

[quote IheartJKR]@TheRabbitOfCaerbannog

Thank you for that link - I’m doing a research project in carceral feminism atm and am looking forward to reading that later. [/quote]
Glad it's of use!

It is worrying that they seem to be driving the narrative on this. They are organising a meeting to discuss the next steps. A lot of people seem to think they are a charity who help victims of domestic abuse but it is very clear from their website that they don’t actually do that. They direct women who need support to the national domestic abuse helpline whilst criticising women aid who help run the helpline for not being ‘inclusive’ enough. Where will the money they get go?

I think it is possible to be very critical of the prison system and but think that some very serious offenders should be in there. The blurring the lines between victims and offenders is victim blaming bollocks too.

We need to make sure the attention that has come from this actually goes towards positive steps to helping women. I feel total dispair at the moment.

Are they just too scared to comment negatively on any ‘woman’s’ organisation for fear of being called sexist?

They should be able to do something on 'anti carceral' groups in general, I'd have thought.

One of their earliest actions was protesting the film 'Suffragette', in response to cuts to domestic violence services.

“If you look at the suffragettes they didn’t just storm film premieres,” one member said, “they threatened to kidnap members of parliament, they smashed glasses, they threatened to bomb places.” Whether or not Sisters Uncut are going to take their protests that far remains to be seen.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/oct/09/domestic-violence-campaigners-suffragette-movie-kanye-west

No matter how they started out, these days Sisters Uncut sound more like TRAs and anti-police activists than feminists. No feminists would be protesting about the prison deaths of males who were locked up for abusing women and children.

This is the joy of "identity politics". Some of the most objectionable people get to appoint themselves as "community leaders" and the powers-that-be then listen to the "community leaders" they find most convenient.

Skips all that boring democracy stuff.

So naturally for a lot of people it will be very convenient if Sisters Uncut can be treated "leaders of the women community", like Stonewall are "leaders of the gay community". You have one leader per community. And curiously they all agree.

All these groups need to be put at arms' length. Governments should listen to them, but never treat them as particularly authoritative. Sisters Uncut and Stonewall are no more or less representative than Fair Play For Women and LGB Alliance.

None of these groups are really representing a community - they're all representing viewpoints and every community has multiple viewpoints.

Sisters Uncut in Edinburgh demonstrated against meetings about Women's Rights

twitter.com/ForwomenScot/status/1371135304971718656

Excellent article in Unherd on this today, referencing the hijacking by Sisters Uncut:

@sarahditum "A series of appalling decisions by the police around the Clapham vigil leaves them looking like they're against women - and handed a gift to pseudo-feminists like Sisters Uncut"

unherd.com/2021/03/the-police-have-a-woman-problem/

Sisters uncut have demonstrated against many women's meetings. The fact they have hijacked Sarah's murder to further their own ends and make demands for cash makes me sick.

I thought SU were all men ? That the “uncut” bit referred to having penises ? Are there women involved too ?

They are grim AF.
Not in my name, Sisters Uncut.

I think there are always women happy to support misogynist men.

This just feels like a power grab to snatch ownership of women from one group of misogynists to another.

They are despicable . Can you imagine the victims of these sex offenders seeing SU making martyrs out of them ? They are batshit . I hope the donated get their money back or it goes to the VAW charities that they believed it was intended for .Somehow I don't hold much hope.

Are there links between Reclaim These Streets and SU?

And who exactly are Reclaim These Streets? They have a Facebook page, but don’t appear to be related to Reclaim The Streets, which is a different organisation. Both use the initiale RTS, quite possibly to create maximum confusion.

Are there legal requirements to setting up a charity and asking for money, or does crowdfunding undermine whatever rules there are?

SU sicken me with their overbearing and violent tactics.

I think I they have nothing to do with Reclaim The Streets (the name close enough to sound ‘familiar’ to feminists).

Who are the organisers of Reclaim These Streets?

Does anyone know?

Hmmmm. Lobby group of PR company?

Thank you for providing this information. And I really wish the mainstream media would stop treating the groups who always hijack good causes as 'spokespeople' for a wider movement. Apart from the dodginess of some of the beliefs (misogyny and anti-semitism very much to the fore with some) it makes it very easy for the general public to dismiss whole movements as the work of professional agitators.

@SirVixofVixHall

I thought SU were all men ? That the “uncut” bit referred to having penises ? Are there women involved too ?

I think the uncut originally refered to their opposition to budget cuts. But I think your interpretation is probably more accurate now they have been taken over as an MRA apologists group

What's happening in the video or I probably mean what is th context? Sorry I've pulled a muscle in my back and I'm taking strong cocodamol so my brain is fuzzy.

That's what I assumed for a long time as well SirVix but apparently the "uncut" bit refers to the cutting of funding for refuges etc. I know, I was suprised as well.

Sisters unhinged are definitely banging the MRA drum louder than anything else right now. Like someone else said, how anyone could look at a male child rapist killing himself in prison and include that on a list of women killed by the state and still try to call themselves feminists is beyond belief.

Sisters Uncut started as a protest against cuts to VAWG sector organisations. Like many other feminist groups, their aims were subsumed in aid of first endorsing and then promoting transgender ideology and legislation. But unlike many other groups, they don't favour peaceful protest, especially not after they recalibrated their main aim to target not the establishment, but women's rights campaigners standing up for women's sex-based rights.

I encountered them in Edinburgh, where they stood, young men and a few young women, wearing balaclavas, screaming hate in the faces of attendees. I knew nothing about them then, but being called a fascist for wanting to attend a public meeting on the effects of a proposed law change on our rights seemed to me to be wholly unfeminist, undemocratic and unhinged.

Their behaviour was so threatening that police recommended we leave in groups for our own safety. When we did, they came nose to nose to us, screaming abuse, lifting their pots up to our ears and banging on them. Hearing-impaired attendees were very upset about that, but the whole encounter was distressing for us all.

That's Sisters Uncut.

@thecatfromjapan

Who are the organisers of Reclaim These Streets?

Does anyone know?

From Twitter:

Henna Shah, chair of London young labour
Grace Jessup, freelance PR
Jamie Klingler, who runs a company training creatives and set up food things
And someone called Anna too I think? Probably some more