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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dr Jane Clare Jones on Twitter this morning

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CaveMum · 11/03/2021 10:24

This thread says everything for me. I’ve shared it across all my own social media this morning.

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Sexnotgender · 12/03/2021 11:35

😂 yeah that’s not how any of this works but thanks for playing.

CaveMum · 12/03/2021 12:44

Sorry, I’ve been out all morning so missed that JCJ has had to lock her account down. I had a quick look and she’s posted this

Dr Jane Clare Jones on Twitter this morning
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FindTheTruth · 12/03/2021 12:51

love her. Thanks Cave.

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2021 12:53

ArabellaScott

Trans women aren't male

So what sex are they?

Female.

Oh, really? Of the female sex? Amazing. With xx chromosomes, large gametes, etc? So in what sense are they 'trans'? How are they different to just your common or garden 'woman'?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/03/2021 12:55

Female.

Define "female", Shizuku.

Sexnotgender · 12/03/2021 12:55

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Female.

Define "female", Shizuku.

You’re wasting your time 😂
Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/03/2021 12:57

I was hoping for a really colourful Twitter definition about shifting constellations or something! Don't spoil my fun

merrymouse · 12/03/2021 12:58

Shikuzu you need to take this up with Stonewall and ask them to drop “acceptance without exception” and explain who is and isn’t included under the trans umbrella.

Until then anything you say about trans women is meaningless. I sympathise - it’s difficult to fight for rights if you can’t explain who you are and why you need them. That is why on this board we insist on language to describe the rights we need because of sex and regardless of identity.

Sexnotgender · 12/03/2021 13:01

@Ereshkigalangcleg

I was hoping for a really colourful Twitter definition about shifting constellations or something! Don't spoil my fun
Ah sorry. As you were!

Something about clownfish maybe?

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2021 13:04

I know! I know! Is it a formless shifting miasma?

Or is it clutch bags?

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 12/03/2021 13:31

@ArabellaScott

I know! I know! Is it a formless shifting miasma?

Or is it clutch bags?

Akin to Alan Garner's Brollachan or Mara?
Abhannmor · 12/03/2021 14:40

@UppityPuppity

Weaponising the horrendous murder of a young woman to attack the need for women’s rights is pretty despicable. Not surprising, but despicable all the same.
Yes x 1000 Uppity
NiceGerbil · 13/03/2021 01:11

I thought it was to do with enjoying street harassment and also sexual submission and what not?

Along with the fitness formless blob stuff.

ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 13/03/2021 08:54

That's right, some fish change sex (ie stop producing either small or large gametes, and start producing the opposite gametes) and this is simultaneously proof that sex doesn't exist at all, that it exists but has nothing to do with gamete production, that it exists but on a spectrum defined by variation in primary and secondary sex characteristics, that it exists but is defined by brain structure not reproductive roles, that it is immutable in the sense that TW have always been women and this can never be changed, and also that it is mutable in the sense that anyone can change sex by having surgery and taking hormones. It couldn't be simpler, you all just don't understand biology.

In other news, some lizards change their skin colour so this also means Rachel dolziel is literally a black women; non human animals exist so all furries are literally the animals they dress up as; caterpillars grow into butterflies so I can also grow wings and fly if I want to etc etc. Anything that exists in nature, even if it only exists in non mammalian species, is evidence that the same thing can and does occur in humans. That's just good science and anyone who says otherwise is a bigot.

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