Ireland..you could not make this up

[purplepizzabunny]

A vociferous campaigner for repeal the 8th campaign, Bernie Linnane, posted just now referring to JK Rowling as an "old trout", and freely admitted she has blocked people from the ARC twitter page, even though that page is a very useful source of info for anyone looking for advice on a termination. So in summary a woman makes derogatory comments about a someone's appearance, and decides that women who do not agree with her are not entitled to access information.

twitter.com/Berlinnaeus/status/1368245476810752006

twitter.com/Berlinnaeus/status/1368247803814805504

[LurkyMcLurkLurk]

I can't find current figures but per the Irish Penal Reform Trust the average number of women in custody in Irish prisons in 2019 was 170. Unless numbers changed hugely that means currently nearly 2.5% the population of Irish women's prisons are trans.

Could suggest a rate of criminal offending more aligned to that of the male prison population? Especially as all 4 have been convicted of much more serious crimes than most female inmates.

[LurkyMcLurkLurk]

Just saw your post Turquoise - so numbers are even more skewed. And isn't it only TW with a GRC that are housed in the women's prisons? So would seem likely a significant percentage of legally recognised "women" have committed serious crimes, either violent or of a sexual nature, or both.

[saltedcaramelchocolate]

From the Countess
twitter.com/tcdfft/status/1375195354065477633?s=21

[Barmbraic]

Is it just me or are there no comments under that journal article? That's unusual...

[XXSex]

@elgreco

Limerick jail is for both sexes interestingly. Separated no doubt. I wonder if its deliberate choice to house these prisoners here so they have wardens that can cope with violent men on hand? And space to segregate them out if necessary?

Dochas has mothers with young children. I guess they can’t put the paedophiles in there.

[saltedcaramelchocolate]

@Barmbraic

Is it just me or are there no comments under that journal article? That's unusual...

Journal.ie doesn't allow comments for their regular transwoman contributior either

[elgreco]

There were a few replies. The first couple complaining about paedos in general, the judge's weird comments and then people who had read all the way through started complaining about men in female jails and skewing the stats. They were all removed shortly after.

[Barmbraic]

Journal.ie doesn't allow comments for their regular transwoman contributior either

I don't read it that often, the app was shit when I had it so I deleted it and got out of the habit of checking the Web page. Who is the trans contributer? AM?

[saltedcaramelchocolate]

@Barmbraic

Journal.ie doesn't allow comments for their regular transwoman contributior either

I don't read it that often, the app was shit when I had it so I deleted it and got out of the habit of checking the Web page. Who is the trans contributer? AM?

Yes.

[3timeslucky]

Dochas has mothers with young children. I guess they can’t put the paedophiles in there

On one of the IWD conference pieces it was said that at one stage one of these prisoners was in Dochas. Gearoid O'Loinsigh was explaining why the layout of that prison is not suitable for any kind of separation/segregation of prisoners.

[XXSex]

@3timeslucky

Dochas has mothers with young children. I guess they can’t put the paedophiles in there

On one of the IWD conference pieces it was said that at one stage one of these prisoners was in Dochas. Gearoid O'Loinsigh was explaining why the layout of that prison is not suitable for any kind of separation/segregation of prisoners.

Those poor mothers.

[miri1985]

Saw on twitter ( twitter.com/HelenTerfSwerf/status/1375020092128432135 ) that there was an article in The Phoenix about TENI's accounts, apparently Ronan Mullen (ugh) raised it in the Oireachtas. Also they mention the IT letters

Also NUIG is trending on twitter becaused the vice auditor of PBP (the party who last month wanted to ban certain feminist groups) has been accused of sexual assault ( twitter.com/PBP_NUIG/status/1378834330571698178 )

[FionaMacCool]

miri those are 2 separately concerning issues aren't they?

1. 
   

I sit on the board of a (very very small) charity organisation. Item 1 at the AGM each year, is the accountants report. A bit of consternation a couple of years ago when the rules for charities changed, as we had to be registered and audited.
The question is then, if we (tiny charity) can do it annually, why cant TENI?

1. If I remember correctly, there is a young NUIG (female) student who stood up to that particular "character" against his motion to ban the IWL. Buala bas to that brave lady.

[fireproofwitch]

@FionaMacCool

miri those are 2 separately concerning issues aren't they?

I sit on the board of a (very very small) charity organisation. Item 1 at the AGM each year, is the accountants report. A bit of consternation a couple of years ago when the rules for charities changed, as we had to be registered and audited.
The question is then, if we (tiny charity) can do it annually, why cant TENI?

1. If I remember correctly, there is a young NUIG (female) student who stood up to that particular "character" against his motion to ban the IWL. Buala bas to that brave lady.

That female student is outstanding. She is really calling them out on their hypocrisy too.

[miri1985]

Letter to the editor yesterday
www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/what-s-wrong-with-the-word-woman-1.4529334

"Sir, – The words “woman” and “mother” are being erased from our legislation by our legislators and State agencies without women, who are the stakeholders affected, being asked to consent to such erasure.

Last year the HSE removed the word “woman” from cervical check material and website and replaced it with the phrase “people with a cervix”. Many women were outraged and said so. After a few months, the HSE said that it had listened to “extensive stakeholder feedback” and the phrase “people with a cervix” was changed to incorporate “women and people with a cervix” wherever it appears in its literature.

Last month, at the lightning pace of shorter than two weeks, the Family Leave and Miscellaneous Provisions Bill was initiated and passed through both the Seanad and the Dáil. The Bill removes the word “mother” from seven existing Acts. The proposed Organisation of Working Time (Reproductive Health Related Leave) Bill 2021 Bill to allow for paid time off for women and mothers, if they have had a miscarriage or need to undergo IVF, doesn’t mention women or mothers once. In addition, both private member Bills to provide free period products before the Seanad don’t mention women or girls once – just “person” or “persons” in the case of the Labour-sponsored Bill and “those” and “everyone” in the Fianna Fáil Bill.

It is an outrageous insult to women to remove our name from legislation intended to benefit those of our sex. It would be foolhardy for politicians to think that Irish women and mothers will remain silent on this. – Is mise, CLODAGH MORAN, "

Then today (unconnected I assume) an opinion column about the lack of public toilets for women www.irishtimes.com/opinion/kathy-sheridan-public-toilets-are-key-to-dignity-health-and-wellbeing-1.4530299

[FionaMacCool]

I'm gritting my teeth in fury reading that.
How bloody dare they?
It's beyond frustrating... and all done on the sneaky, softly softly. Which implies that the legislators and those promoting the change know that it wont go over well with the wider population.

[miri1985]

That letter to the editor about the word woman has lead to a full page of responses (7 agreeing with the previous letter and certain people shocked that they had to learn about it from a letter and 1 "cis-gender man" who thinks that women aren't being nice about their erasure and are "advantaged" and "privileged" ).

www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/what-s-wrong-with-the-word-woman-1.4531247

[Mummyoflittledragon]

Awful. Have a read of this 3 parter from Graham Lineham on the strategy of stealth advised by Dentons law firm. grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/the-dentons-document

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/the-dentons-document-78d

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/the-dentons-document-part-3

[FionaMacCool]

[quote miri1985]That letter to the editor about the word woman has lead to a full page of responses (7 agreeing with the previous letter and certain people shocked that they had to learn about it from a letter and 1 "cis-gender man" who thinks that women aren't being nice about their erasure and are "advantaged" and "privileged" ).

www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/what-s-wrong-with-the-word-woman-1.4531247[/quote]
miri I logged in here this morning to comment on that. Interesting.
Especially the woman who says they have contacted TDs & Senators ....

" Something else is happening which is quite sinister. The euphemisms have moved from the word “period” to the word “woman”. The word “woman” does not appear once in either of the Bills. It is replaced by “anyone”, “everyone” and “people”. None of the female Fianna Fáil or Labour Senators contacted seem to know why or where the word went, although it must have been deliberately excluded. Labour’s Ivana Bacik had no difficulty referring to women and girls in 2019 when she raised the issue of period poverty in the Seanad as she used both throughout her speech. When contacted, neither she nor any of her female Seanad colleagues answered my question – why are you deliberately excluding the word “woman”? " .

[3timeslucky]

Ivana had no fear of taking on the controversial back in the day. I'd have hoped for better of her.

Great letters though (with one notable exception).

[fireproofwitch]

@3timeslucky

Ivana had no fear of taking on the controversial back in the day. I'd have hoped for better of her.

Great letters though (with one notable exception).

That notable exception took the time to mansplain to the women how silly they are being.
We should be grateful to him

[3timeslucky]

What a gift he is!

[XXSex]

@3timeslucky

Ivana had no fear of taking on the controversial back in the day. I'd have hoped for better of her.

Great letters though (with one notable exception).

Ivana is on the Trinity ticket for the Seanad. Difficult to make waves when you’re trying to get on the woke ticket.

[XXSex]

I wonder if Ivana came back as a TD would she be more fearless on issues?

[miri1985]

@XXSex

I wonder if Ivana came back as a TD would she be more fearless on issues?

As much as I dislike the idea of an upper house where people are members for life, maybe there is something to people not being too afraid about being reelected as there have been some great contributions by some members of the house of lords in the UK debate but every Irish politican seems afraid to even mention the sex of more than half the population.

The letters continue
www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/what-s-wrong-with-the-word-woman-1.4532301