Ireland..you could not make this up

[purplepizzabunny]

A vociferous campaigner for repeal the 8th campaign, Bernie Linnane, posted just now referring to JK Rowling as an "old trout", and freely admitted she has blocked people from the ARC twitter page, even though that page is a very useful source of info for anyone looking for advice on a termination. So in summary a woman makes derogatory comments about a someone's appearance, and decides that women who do not agree with her are not entitled to access information.

twitter.com/Berlinnaeus/status/1368245476810752006

twitter.com/Berlinnaeus/status/1368247803814805504

"I think those things show indoctrination. 'It's just an acronym/description' comes up over and over again - never mind that it's patently obvious that a term used consistently in an abusive way is 'not just' anything."

Where has the idea that something being an acronym makes it benign come from? I'm sure we could all think of some offensive commonly used acronyms that are slurs but naming them would probably get the thread deleted.

The Standards for Public Affairs in Scotland said that its a derogatory term two years ago www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-48295000 .

I see it being tossed about a lot by young left Irish politicans on twitter, I wonder will there ever come a day when they realise that they shouldn't be saying it. At least you can scrub it off your own twitter, writing it into the IT, it will live forever

@saltedcaramelchocolate

twitter.com/ConallEducation/status/1371131019592658949 LOL, reading this tweet They really have difficulty understanding that democracy allows people to have different opinions, don't they?

It turns out that Conall is in PBP and soo is looking to de platform other rival parties. I’m hoping that his entire motion will fall on this basis. twitter.com/saoirseconn1/status/1373054398591598592?s=21

People Before Women.

Scary stuff. Have you seen the replies? Beneath all the self congratulatory back slapping on being kind and inclusive with cute little rainbow emojis is visible woman hatred. That young woman who is standing up to them is incredibly brave.

@purplepizzabunny

Scary stuff. Have you seen the replies? Beneath all the self congratulatory back slapping on being kind and inclusive with cute little rainbow emojis is visible woman hatred. That young woman who is standing up to them is incredibly brave.

I'm so impressed by her, shes really standing up to some awful bullies. I don't know if any of ye are familiar with what going on at NUIG but a fair amount of the people who are pilling on are up in favour of this motion are subject to a disciplinary action for stuff they said about a member of a very litigous family (the Burkes) www.thecollegeview.com/2021/02/26/nuig-under-fire-for-alleged-social-media-censorship/+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie&client=firefox-b-d" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9TG2axkVfEQJ:www.thecollegeview.com/2021/02/26/nuig-under-fire-for-alleged-social-media-censorship/+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie&client=firefox-b-d

Again I don't see how they don't see the irony of trying to shut down others right to free speech.

I think they think that they're inherently more clever and correct than anyone else, if this does pass, it would be an easy win IMHO for any of those groups to sue the SU for the allegations that are made in that letter

More letters today!!

www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/why-gender-act-is-now-under-attack-1.4514974

Bless, they have no arguments. They can only say that women's rights are foreign to Ireland, so bad. And Irish women are corrupted if they won't take it lying down.

Now, where was that previously preached?

"Anyone claiming that the legislation was somehow “snuck in” would need to be
living under a rock to have missed all this"

Yet

A certain Irish TRA has stated very clearly that the GRA was slipped in "under the radar".
www.gendergp.com/ireland-trans-rights-aoife-martin/

@Cailleach1

Bless, they have no arguments. They can only say that women's rights are foreign to Ireland, so bad. And Irish women are corrupted if they won't take it lying down.

Now, where was that previously preached?

The same theme keeps cropping up. From the formation of the LGB alliance in Ireland to any objection by women to Self ID. It is all blamed on Irish women being corrupted by UK influences. The fury they display that Irish women don't know their place speaks volumes.

[quote saltedcaramelchocolate]"Anyone claiming that the legislation was somehow “snuck in” would need to be
living under a rock to have missed all this"

Yet

A certain Irish TRA has stated very clearly that the GRA was slipped in "under the radar".
www.gendergp.com/ireland-trans-rights-aoife-martin/[/quote]
For clarification, that quote was from Dr Chryssa's letter in the Times link by XXSex.

www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/why-gender-act-is-now-under-attack-1.4514974

Will it ever occur to the formenists that telling Irish women that we don't know our own minds isn't the cunning plan they think it is?

[quote saltedcaramelchocolate]"Anyone claiming that the legislation was somehow “snuck in” would need to be
living under a rock to have missed all this"

Yet

A certain Irish TRA has stated very clearly that the GRA was slipped in "under the radar".
www.gendergp.com/ireland-trans-rights-aoife-martin/[/quote]

Dr Chryssa is Greek and her husband is English. Does she not see the irony here?? Awful letter, false statements and tired mantras.

In fact the manner in which Ireland introduced the GRA " under the radar" has been held up as a model by trans rights groups internationally murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/2020/02/25/from-medical-assessment-to-affirmation-legal-gender-self-declaration-in-ireland/amp/

"A report on legal gender recognition in Europe published by international law firm Dentons in November 2019 praised activists in Ireland for passing legislation “under the radar” by “latching trans rights legislation onto more popular legal reforms (e.g. marriage equality), rather than taking more combative, public-facing approaches.”

This tactic is evident when Dr Chryssa, in her letter in the link above, similarly links marriage equality and abortion rights to the GRA 2015.

"Ireland is a country that changed its Constitution in 2015 and 2018 to implement human rights for gay and pregnant people respectively."

Contrary to the claim by Dr Chryssa that it was widely reported on, Self ID was only slipped through in the last few weeks of the legislation

" In December 2014 the Government introduced the Gender Recognition Bill, drafted on an assessment model basis, with applicants required to provide a supporting statement from a known medical practitioner.
"The Dáil (lower house of the Oireachtas) dropped the requirement for supporting evidence from a medical practitioner in the last few weeks of its passage and replaced it with a self-declaration approach."

Also lets not forget that what was brought in was wildly different from what the Gender Recognition Advisory Group recommended, they recommended a law similar to the UK one which would at least have had some form of gatekeeping for a certain individual we can think of in Limerick prison.

I expect someday some unfortunate Barrister for the government will have to explain why they went against their own advisory group

Another great letter, kind of surprised they're allowing so much back and forth
www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/gender-recognition-act-1.4517084

Yes, another great letter- well done to the IT for allowing the debate and not being captured so far.

That's a great letter. Yes, it's good to see the Times publishing these letters.

Now we need more discourse on the ground. Spread the word.

Another sex offending Male identities as a women. Now 3 of 4 males in Limerick prison are sex offenders.

Journal.ie ...... I knew the second I saw the headline that it was a man.

Are they definitely in Limerick? Isn't the capacity there only 28?

In fairness, no I am not certain, I got that info from the comments. Quite a few people seemed to know but all the comments have been deleted since.

www.thejournal.ie/women-prison-ireland-petty-crime-4596708-Apr2019/

95% of women given prison sentences in Ireland are there for petty crimes.

As of yesterday www.irishprisons.ie/wp-content/uploads/documents_pdf/25-March-2021.pdf there were 117 women in Dochas (Mountjoy) and 27 in Limerick, 144 in total in the whole of Ireland, the vast majority of whom are petty criminals, usually coming from abusive backgrounds and caught up with drugs and petty theft.

The numbers are tiny. Four men being counted as women really skews the figures.

Limerick jail is for both sexes interestingly. Separated no doubt. I wonder if its deliberate choice to house these prisoners here so they have wardens that can cope with violent men on hand? And space to segregate them out if necessary?