Superstraight

[Xanthangum]

Superstraight is trending on twitter. No I hadn't either.

Its a subcategory of straight that means that straight people can now be included in the lgbtqi+ categories. Or something. Hooray! Fight for my superstraight rights too Stonewall!. Or something

twitter.com/supa_str8/status/1368003836863000576?s=20

jj

Before all this super-whatever started, what was your understanding of

Bisexual?

And of pansexual?

The whole thing is just beautiful, isn’t it?

I’m just Super. That’s all. Super.

@littlbrowndog

Yeah same for me. Josie

Am a super straight. Doesn’t mean I fancy all men

Exactly.

I think a lot of men don't understand the intense level of discernment involved in most women's choices.

Like you, a sense of humour, for me, is just as crucial as the fact that they are male.

And, it never cease to amaze me how men will go to extraordinary lengths, to convince women they should have sex with them.

@Highwind

JJ doesn’t realise that sexual orientation is the absolute arbiter of what you are attracted to in a sexual way.

A superstraight woman will never be attracted to a female born person
A superlesbian will never be attracted to a male born person

Etc.

It doesn’t matter how the present themselves, how they act, how much they even pay you. Your sexual orientation will not allow you to override what sex you are attracted to in a partner.

As I said before I am only attracted to male born people, transwomen technically included.... but like obese male born people, they will never be my preference of male partner.

Sexuality first, preferences afterwards.

Sexuality: males only... (transwoman pass this gatekeeping)
Next comes preference: .... not trans, not obese, not elderly etc.

My sexuality includes transwomen, my sexual preferences do not.

Exactly.

Didn't the boy who came up with this say he only was attracted to women who are of the female sex and regard themselves as women? That is how he defined superstraight orientation in men.

So asking superstraight women if they are attracted to Munroe Bergdorff is a bit off given that MB is a transwoman.

Personally, I'm bisexual (although have mainly dated men and am now married to one, so I'm closer to straight than lesbian), and if I were single again I don't think I would be interested in dating someone who is transgender. Someone gender non-conforming like Harry Styles these days, sure (although he's a bit young for me), but not someone who had actively tried to look like the opposite sex. I like men to have male sexual characteristics and women to have female sexual characteristics, rather than a mixture as occurs when transwomen have facial feminisation surgery or transmen take testosterone. I think this is probably something innate rather than dye to social pressures, but I don't think people should be pressured to change their sexuality to be "more inclusive" in any event.

Widespread enough that society hasn't felt the need to consider dislike of certain political views to the point you wouldn't fancy someone to be a kind of sexual identity unlike LGB.

I'm sure there's probably a letter and flag for that in among the TQ+ by now. But this whole line of questioning is such a male-centric view of women's sexuality (no idea of or assumption about this poster's sex here, some women are very male-identified.)

Men tend to assume that a "yes" is default and women have to have reasons to say no. However, women don't need reasons to not be attracted to someone. "No" is default. So the questions here are downright weird. Especially when women are being spoken of like we're a hivemind, as if some women can speak for all women - this is another weird and creepy thing men commonly do.

In general, I think it's good for women to avoid men who exhibit signs of thinking that way.

"No" is default.

Exactly!

Men tend to assume that a "yes" is default and women have to have reasons to say no.

A very, very important point.

#SuperNoIsValid.

No is default.

Default.

@LadyFuHao

I find it fascinating that some people think that this is an alt right movement when it is quite clear that almost all 'super' posts, tweets and comments are using the same words, phrases, images, and memes of the community it is holding up a mirror to.

If the copied image is 'alt right and distasteful' then what does that make the original?

Fantastic comment.

It's genuinely astonishing that the "other side" can't see a genuine level of anger here or even contemplate that maybe things have gone a bit wrong in their own movement.

Men tend to assume that a "yes" is default and women have to have reasons to say no. However, women don't need reasons to not be attracted to someone. "No" is default. So the questions here are downright weird.

Exactly.

Creepy.

Men tend to assume that a "yes" is default and women have to have reasons to say no. However, women don't need reasons to not be attracted to someone. "No" is default. So the questions here are downright weird.

Which was massively highlighted by the thinking that lesbians could 'cope' with an encounter that wasn't even in their orientation!

It's something that very many men do not understand. It's just not in their remit.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Ah ok, thank you. I feel for him and his family.

Same

Widespread enough that society hasn't felt the need to consider dislike of certain political views to the point you wouldn't fancy someone to be a kind of sexual identity unlike LGB.

... this whole line of questioning is such a male-centric view of women's sexuality

I was thinking along the same lines.

My initial thought was “we don’t have a word for not fancying someone you despise like fish don’t have a word for water” but then I thought a bit more and realised of course plenty of men are happy to fancy, or at least fuck, women they despise so perhaps it is a male/female difference, albeit maybe a culturally constructed one.

(And then I thought about rape as a weapon of war, but I think (hope) that is far outside any conversation about day to day male sexuality)

The transgender ideology that it is transphobic not to be attracted to a transgender person who identifies with a gender that is usually aligned with the sex you are attracted to is really confusing.

I mean if a person decided they were attracted to the transgender person, with a gender that is usually aligned with the sex you are usually attracted to, does it mean the person's sexuality identity has changed? Would they go from being straight to a lesbian or lesbian to straight, for example?

Not to the forget sex and gender identity is not necessarily connected...

I thought a bit more and realised of course plenty of men are happy to fancy, or at least fuck, women they despise so perhaps it is a male/female difference, albeit maybe a culturally constructed one.

This is very true. Some men seem happy to sleep with women who they are not even attracted to (see "any hole is a goal") or women who they actively dislike (see "hatefucking"). I think these ideas are much rarer in women.

The only person I know in real life whose sexual preferences are problematic is a female friend who is in her mid-thirties and looking to settle down and have children, but only ever feels attracted to men in the mid-late twenties (and so far none of them have had the necessary maturity to want to settle down). But my only concern is her happiness - it is only problematic because she is not finding fulfilment. My concern is not for the men of her own age who would like to date her. Nobody owes you anyone a relationship.

I was quite intrigued by the unspoken presumption that any noted transwoman in the public eye would be interested in women on FWR. I would have assumed such a person would have as much interest in us, given our posts, as I do in people with views diametrically opposed to my own. Which is, as I've said, zero sexual interest!

If I did find such a person attractive, I would find it a tad obnoxious and offensive to them on my part to say so. Like hell would they want to read that a t* found them attractive!

I personally give no shits what they think.

I do care about helping lesbian teenage girls (and women) to be out and proud about saying "no" to them.

I do care about helping teenage boys (and men) uphold their rights to say "no" to them.

Any lesbians reading.

No one is owed your body or sexuality. In thought, speech or deed.

Any gay men reading. No one is owed your body. In thought, speech or deed.

The same obviously applies to young (and older) bi sexual people.

#SuperStraights

Do your thing. Your sexuality is valid.

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LadyFuHao

I find it fascinating that some people think that this is an alt right movement when it is quite clear that almost all 'super' posts, tweets and comments are using the same words, phrases, images, and memes of the community it is holding up a mirror to.

If the copied image is 'alt right and distasteful' then what does that make the original?

Fantastic comment.

It's genuinely astonishing that the "other side" can't see a genuine level of anger here or even contemplate that maybe things have gone a bit wrong in their own movement.

It is a fantastic comment, funny how this point whooshes over their heads. None so blind as those that will not see.