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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Superstraight

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Xanthangum · 06/03/2021 05:31

Superstraight is trending on twitter. No I hadn't either.

Its a subcategory of straight that means that straight people can now be included in the lgbtqi+ categories. Or something. Hooray! Fight for my superstraight rights too Stonewall!. Or something

twitter.com/supa_str8/status/1368003836863000576?s=20

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eaglerising · 07/03/2021 13:44

Do you not think there's a difference between discussing how sexual preferences might be socially constructed and criticising an individual for their sexual tastes?

Absolutely. However, gender can be separated from sex. Otherwise transgenderism wouldn't exist. Equally sexual preference is just that, a preference for a particular sex.

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 07/03/2021 13:47

A reaction to the trans awareness weeks/ months overkill by the media.

Superstraight
MarieFromStTropez · 07/03/2021 13:47

Oh this is great 😁 ! It’s been awful watching what’s been happening to lesbians especially. In my view, they are the group who have suffered the most.

InterfectoremVulpes · 07/03/2021 13:48

Interesting that jj's initial response was to call a transwoman (who has just come out to their wife) a "man in lingerie".

Sophoclesthefox · 07/03/2021 13:49

Really, really enjoying all of the reactions from people who have previously strenuously campaigned on the “no one is telling lesbians they have to be attracted to transwomen! Nobody’s orientation is up for debate, and you don’t have to justify your preferences” platform.

Then when someone comes up with a word that is positively Germanic in its ability to condense all that meaning into one handy word, bedlam ensues as they get all knotted up trying say they weren’t ever saying that by saying it all over again in response..

Brilliant Grin

jj1968 · 07/03/2021 13:49

@SomethingWitchy

jj Yes, I think there is absolutely a difference between academic enquiry into the drivers of sexual preference on a population level with a view to forming a clearer intellectual understanding of it, and "criticising" someone's sexuality, which is what you were objecting to teenage boys being told they need not put up with.
So any analysis should stay at the academic level and not filter out nto reality lest anyone think's their sexuality is being criticised? Discussions about fat shaming should be confined to the academy lest a teenage boy hears it and feels he's being oppressed for not fancying fat women?
Sophoclesthefox · 07/03/2021 13:51

And of course, no analysis of gender, sex and sexuality would be complete without a quick round of Pin the Nazis on the Feminists.

Next up, Bobbing for Witches!

jj1968 · 07/03/2021 13:54

@Sophoclesthefox

And of course, no analysis of gender, sex and sexuality would be complete without a quick round of Pin the Nazis on the Feminists.

Next up, Bobbing for Witches!

No-one is pinning Nazis on anyone. This hashtag was widely circulated on 4chan (who seem to be claiming the credit) and the reddit group appears to have been founded by alt-right people. It's surely of interest where this hashtag might have come from isn't it?
RaidersoftheLostAardvark · 07/03/2021 13:55

@Sophoclesthefox Superwitches for the win!

DialSquare · 07/03/2021 13:56

[quote RaidersoftheLostAardvark]@Sophoclesthefox Superwitches for the win![/quote]
Part of the Supernatural movement.

eaglerising · 07/03/2021 13:57

Discussions about fat shaming should be confined to the academy lest a teenage boy hears it and feels he's being oppressed for not fancying fat women?

Fat shaming is bad. However, that doesn't necessarily mean everyone has to be physically attracted to fat people. And not everyone is - some are, some aren't. This is generally accepted within society.

WanderinWomb · 07/03/2021 13:57

I think a lot of people are misunderstanding #superstraight #superlesbian etc. It doesn't mean being sexually attracted to a gender presentation (feminine/masculine) but only if the person is not trans.

Is much more simple than that. As the lad said he is not attracted to transwomen because they aren't female not because they *are" trans.

He's trying be very clear that he isn't transphobic by making up a new "gender"

Is not complicated, just means being sexually attracted by sex. Just like heterosexual and homosexual and bisexual really mean and have always meant, but are not presently allowed to say because the genderists accuse people of transphobia.

So make up a new sexuality gender label, because we know every new gender is valid and must be respected. That boy skewered the genderist nonsense in a minute and they will never forgive him. I hope that he and family are safe.

MarieFromStTropez · 07/03/2021 13:57

My elderly aunt came out as a lesbian in the 1960s. She was NEVER attracted to men. I can’t wait to tell her she is now classified as a SuperLesbian. She will love that 😁 !

YetAnotherSpartacus · 07/03/2021 14:01

I like superwitch!

Womyn's International Terrorist Conspiracy From Hell :)- now there's a blast from the second wave past!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_International_Terrorist_Conspiracy_from_Hell

RedDogsBeg · 07/03/2021 14:03

@WanderinWomb

I think a lot of people are misunderstanding #superstraight #superlesbian etc. It doesn't mean being sexually attracted to a gender presentation (feminine/masculine) but only if the person is not trans.

Is much more simple than that. As the lad said he is not attracted to transwomen because they aren't female not because they *are" trans.

He's trying be very clear that he isn't transphobic by making up a new "gender"

Is not complicated, just means being sexually attracted by sex. Just like heterosexual and homosexual and bisexual really mean and have always meant, but are not presently allowed to say because the genderists accuse people of transphobia.

So make up a new sexuality gender label, because we know every new gender is valid and must be respected. That boy skewered the genderist nonsense in a minute and they will never forgive him. I hope that he and family are safe.

Exactly wanderinWomb but this 16 year old boy is now facing death threats as is his mother and is being smeared as a nazi, and alt-right, and it's all nasty GC Feminists fault anyway.
jj1968 · 07/03/2021 14:05

I wonder which should be a priority. In a country where in many states superstraight people can employ the gay panic defence if they murder someone gay or trans who comes onto them then should we be prioritising the feelings of straight men triggered because their heterosexuality is challenged or the victims of homophobic and transphobic violence?

SomethingWitchy · 07/03/2021 14:06

Academic enquiry is not carried out in order to pick fault with and disapprove of individuals, or with a predetermined aim of changing behaviour observed.

If your academic enquiry demonstrates that a particularly sexuality is partly or wholly socially formed, that does not (or should not) equate to a value judgement on those who have it, or imply that anything must be done about it.

It had long been debated how far same sex has a biological vs social basis, and while I'm all for academic enquiry for its own sake and consider the question intellectually interesting, I don't think that the answer should have any effect whatsoever on policy, for the simple reason that - however arrived at - someone's sexuality is between them and whichever consenting adults freely agree to a sexual relationship with them.

If it were to turn out that homosexuality has a social basis only, I would not think we ought to do anything to prevent it, nor think it less "valid" than heterosexuality, not try to change anyone's mind about that being their sexuality.

So yes, it should be kept in the academy unless and until it is shown that there is some great harm being done to your population which needs addressing.

Any upset of straight women at being ruled out in advance of the dating pool of gay men doesn't qualify, and homosexuality - even if entirely socially constructed - should not be "criticised" because of it.

Bordois · 07/03/2021 14:07

The flailing from certain quarters is a delight to watch. Please do continue!

eaglerising · 07/03/2021 14:09

In a country where in many states superstraight people can employ the gay panic defence if they murder someone gay or trans who comes onto them then should we be prioritising the feelings of straight men triggered because their heterosexuality is challenged or the victims of homophobic and transphobic violence?

Sexual preference should not be conflated with murderous acts. It's preposterous to do this. Sexual preference is no defence. This is the UK where hate crimes exist.

Outwithreason · 07/03/2021 14:09

Surely any academic studies will be shut down by cries of superposition?

Outwithreason · 07/03/2021 14:10

Superphobia!

YetAnotherSpartacus · 07/03/2021 14:12
Bordois · 07/03/2021 14:12

@Outwithreason

Superphobia!
Its actual literal violence Sad
SomethingWitchy · 07/03/2021 14:13

Incidentally, jj "fat-shaming" or anything-"shaming" is a very different concept to saying "I'm not sexually attracted to you/that characteristic".

YetAnotherSpartacus · 07/03/2021 14:14

Better use it carefully or it can change your life :)