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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

GenderGP... Telegraph expose

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nevertrustaherdofcows · 26/02/2021 21:23

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/26/children-can-order-life-altering-transgender-drugs-bedroom/

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 28/02/2021 09:15

Gender GP have updated their original page on this, directly addressing questions raised in the article, and IMO digging an even deeper hole.

Xanthangum · 28/02/2021 13:46

I find this pop-up on the Gender GP landing page fascinating.

  1. We operate 100% legally even though our founder has been suspended by the GMC
  1. We reject media scrutiny, even if traditionally the actions of the fourth estate to keep politicians, charities, big business and so on in check are generally seen as a good thing.
  1. Its all fake news anyway. Just trust us.
GenderGP... Telegraph expose
andyoldlabour · 28/02/2021 13:57

"fake news" when the news is very much true. That reminds me of a recently departed (from the White House) POTUS.

MaudTheInvincible · 28/02/2021 15:21

@Xanthangum

I find this pop-up on the Gender GP landing page fascinating.
  1. We operate 100% legally even though our founder has been suspended by the GMC
  1. We reject media scrutiny, even if traditionally the actions of the fourth estate to keep politicians, charities, big business and so on in check are generally seen as a good thing.
  1. Its all fake news anyway. Just trust us.

This made me think of this tweet, twitter.com/bjportraits/status/1365723955127025666?s=20

WhatKatyDidNot · 28/02/2021 16:00

Remember, she wrote to Matt Hancock not long ago asking him to close the loophole by making them controlled drugs, which would mean they wouldn't be able to prescribe them in this way anymore

That's PBs and oestrogen. Testosterone is already a controlled drug.

StellaAndCrow · 28/02/2021 16:15

That case of the teenager committing suicide is so tragic. If it wasn't for the "affirmation only at all costs" approach things could have been so different. (and I don't think having the birth name Jessica but preferring to be called "Jess" from a young age is a good indication of being transgender)

umbel · 01/03/2021 08:52

Apparently they will supply a letter to change the gender marker on your passport too for a small sum.

They will happily write you a referral for a double mastectomy too, for £150. You don’t even need to be a patient of theirs.

WhoWh0 · 01/03/2021 09:18

How can that be legal or ethical to write a referral for removal of body parts without the person being their patient? It is horrific - what happened to “do no harm”?

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 01/03/2021 12:27

I find it hard to understand why this company is allowed to operate. Have medical ethics been dumped as a concept?

flyingbuttress43 · 01/03/2021 12:35

Telegraph investigation team follow up today to GenderGP.

I haven't identified it yet on the online version but will post link if I do.There is a trailer on the front page "Childeren can avoid GP for sex-change drugs" and on page 8 "No doctor's meeting for sex-change drugs".

DT says that in the second part of their investigation reporters posed as parents of a 12 year old boy who approached GenderGP and had two online appointments with a counsellor and one with a doctor. The child was not present. The counsellor and doctor were simply told he identified as female: the counsellor said they would not necessarily have to speak to a doctor before their child started puberty blockers. They elected to book a consultation anyway with a doctor but were told by that doctor that the 12 year old could potentially obtain puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones without ever having an appointment with a GenderGP doctor.

Be interesting where the investigation goes from here.....

OldCrone · 01/03/2021 12:55

I think this is the new Telegraph article.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/28/exclusive-online-clinic-willing-prescribe-sex-change-drugs-children/

umbel · 01/03/2021 12:59

WTAF!! They would prescribe PB for a child they had never seen? Surely that’s a giant paedophile klaxon?

ArabellaScott · 01/03/2021 13:43

Is that not the old one, OldCrone? Date is yesterday.

Xanthangum · 01/03/2021 13:54

Yesterday's date but 9pm, so for today's paper I think

ArabellaScott · 01/03/2021 13:55

Ah, okay. It's paywalled, so I can't check!

Akela64 · 01/03/2021 14:43

Wonder what JoMo and GLP have to say about this?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/03/2021 15:16

That's PBs and oestrogen. Testosterone is already a controlled drug.

Thanks, WhatKatyDidNot

Soontobe60 · 01/03/2021 15:35

[quote Xanthangum]Bizarrely, they appear to have issued a rebuttle that confirms nearly every detail to be true.

It's like they are proud of being outlaws, fighting the good fight etc etc. Arrogant as well as deluded and dangerous.

www.gendergp.com/uk-media-promotes-climate-of-fear-for-trans-youth-gendergp-telegraph-response/[/quote]
Good grief - the fact that they produce this as a rebuttal!! Its almost like an unregulated advert for the services they provide. In who’s world are any of their responses acceptable?

Sexnotgender · 01/03/2021 15:59

@umbel

WTAF!! They would prescribe PB for a child they had never seen? Surely that’s a giant paedophile klaxon?
So essentially, anyone could get blockers for a child and theoretically give them without the child knowing? Not a total safeguarding disaster at all...
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 01/03/2021 16:01

I noticed this in the new one

If Alfie was to access puberty blockers at 12, she shouldn't be on until she's 16… That's where damage is caused to bone density. And that's where it can be dangerous."

Is there any evidence that a child can go through a "proper" puberty when on cross-sex hormones - is their any evidence that cross-sex hormones solve the bone density problem?

yourhairiswinterfire · 01/03/2021 16:15

So essentially, anyone could get blockers for a child and theoretically give them without the child knowing? Not a total safeguarding disaster at all...

This was from one of the female clinicians from a Times article:

One case has haunted her. “All the pushing was coming from the father to put the kid on puberty blockers. Thinking back on it now, I fear that the father was a paedophile and the child was being abused.” There is no suggestion the service knowingly ignored the case, and the outcome is unknown.

I don't doubt paedophiles will abuse this. It's so easy for them, no having to go to a clinic with a child who might slip up and say the wrong thing, no ''gatekeepers'' stopping them.

This is like watching a car crash happening in slow motion and everyone is deliberately looking the other way and pretending they can't see it happening. It's sick.

Sexnotgender · 01/03/2021 16:30

Oh god that’s awful @yourhairiswinterfire 😱

People aren’t just looking the other way, they’re actually cheering this shit on.

Whatwouldscullydo · 01/03/2021 16:32
Shock
ArabellaScott · 01/03/2021 16:33

All the TRAs that go on about how we're overreacting because under 18s don't get cross sex hormones in the UK ... how many are treated by GenderGP?

ArabellaScott · 01/03/2021 16:33

Where are our usual friendly TRAs? Have they no comment on the GenderGP service?