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[Sunkisses]

According to @SexMattersOrg on Twitter the Govt have backed down on the MOMA (Maternity) Bill and will now use the word 'mother' not 'person' in the legislation!

Women did this! We are winning!

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I may have to email the good lady. I'm sure I could find some real research. Maybe some done by bother men and women.

I'm sure I could find some from left leaning organisations too!

Stupid woman!

I feel really moved by this

Quite teary

@Sunkisses

"This is a great day for women and I am privileged to have played a part in it" - Baroness Noakes

It is a day that should never have had to happen though.

Huge ray of hope. Thank you to all the grown ups in the HOL. I wonder what the push back will be?

"It's time to stand up against some of the intimidation". A line in the sand.

Absolutely.

God, I can't even say how much better I feel now. And the sun has just come out outside my window.

Chins up, wims. Keep pulling.

Yes, I'm beginning to get it for the first time. Where is Baroness Ruth Hunt, I wonder? Surely as the woman who led Stonewall down the trans path she should be up there side by side with Baroness Barker?

Emma Nicholson being gracious and magnanimous there. This is such a powerful argument for a second house full of grey-haired people who aren't under pressure to win votes.

Yes exactly battyorange. The very existence of the House of Lords has always infuriated me, but this really shines a light on the role it can play.

I was having a really bad couple of days. Everything seemed to be going against us and now this HoL

'In this instance, the rights of mothers trump the rights of trans people.'

Crikey.

I've often wondered what was the point of a bunch of unelected peers having a say in our laws etc. but now I see that they can consider and comment without fear of deselection or losing the public vote so they're free to challenge.

@Sunkisses

Lord Winston, one of the foremost and respected reproductive doctors, reminds the House that humans have around 30 trillion cells in our bodies that originates at the moment of embyonic genesis, and they are all either XX or XY

Reminds the House that no one change sex!

Cheering for this.... but as others have said, how bad things are that we have to be grateful and happy for simple, undeniable, pertinent facts to be spoken aloud in one of our Houses of government.

Thanks v much for this thread, Sunkisses.

"The rights of mothers trump those of the trans community."

This is the kind of clarity I'm here for.

@MarshaBradyo

I feel really moved by this

Quite teary

also.

@TriflePudding

I've often wondered what was the point of a bunch of unelected peers having a say in our laws etc. but now I see that they can consider and comment without fear of deselection or losing the public vote so they're free to challenge.

Yes, it pains me to say this but there are advantages to having law makers who do not have to always have an eye on election and appealing to the masses in the most simplistic and short term ways.

MarshaBradyo
I feel really moved by this
Quite teary

also

same

"It is important that we use language that carries consent" (from the people) - Lord Forsyth (Conservative)

@TriflePudding

I've often wondered what was the point of a bunch of unelected peers having a say in our laws etc. but now I see that they can consider and comment without fear of deselection or losing the public vote so they're free to challenge.

YY

'Baroness Barker, whom I respect, has gone off the rails'

Strongest statement yet summing up that they all think she's dead wrong.

"Baroness Barker has gone off the rails a bit.." says Lord Forsyth.

Oh lord for an edit button I’ve been all over the place the last few days with posting mistakes !!

I've often wondered what was the point of a bunch of unelected peers having a say in our laws etc. but now I see that they can consider and comment without fear of deselection or losing the public vote so they're free to challenge

It’s taken me a while to realise this as well, but I really think that the House of Lords is absolutely invaluable to a fair society, particularly in modern life where social media plays a huge part in public opinion.

"I feel that Baroness Barker has gone off the rails a bit. If we were to always use 'gender neutral' language then we wouldn't be able to call this a Maternity Bill" - Lord Forsyth (Conservative)

"I want to thank the (Conservative) Minister for coming around to our point of view, especially as we have rarely agreed on anything!" - Baroness Goudie (Labour)

@Sunkisses

"I feel that Baroness Barker has gone off the rails a bit. If we were to always use 'gender neutral' language then we wouldn't be able to call this a Maternity Bill" - Lord Forsyth (Conservative)

Brilliant!

@BitOfFun

"The rights of mothers trump those of the trans community."

This is the kind of clarity I'm here for.

Who said this, please?