Allison Bailey to sue Stonewall -thread 2

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Previous thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3950877-Allison-Bailey-to-sue-Stonewall

Allison's website allisonbailey.co.uk

Statement

First and foremost, I hope that my legal action will bring me justice. I also hope that it can stop Stonewall from policing free speech via its Diversity Champions scheme.

Stonewall have signed up many companies, public bodies, voluntary sector organisations and government departments to their manifesto and their value system regarding trans rights. What is called Stonewall Law. Without most of the public realising it, a large swathe of British employers have signed up to the Stonewall value system. It has done this by trying to silence and vilify women like me who have genuine concerns about how its approach to trans inclusivity conflicts with the protections, safety and dignity of women, girls, children and LGB people.

We cannot achieve a just outcome for everyone while Stonewall are free to threaten women like me with the loss of our livelihoods and reputations. Stonewall must be held to account. I intend to do just that.

That's somewhat promising.

But I've still got a weird feeling about this. How did the deck get stacked like this so blatantly? Or is Cooper used to it in employment law?

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Heart of case is heated public debate on gender theory in relation to trans persons. Claimant believes TWAW is prejudicial to rights of women and LGB people

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Judge Stout: essence of legal case, claimant made clear she objected to GCC association with Stonewall & then helped launch
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resulting in stonewall complaining to GCC and claimant suffering detriment.

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Claimant believes connection with SW is prejudicial to her rights. After tweets on these issues and launch of LGBA she suffered detriments including substantial loss of fee income.

The life of a working woman in a pandemic!

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Judge Stout running through legal background
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Judge Stout apologising for noise of children in background!

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GCC object to claim because section 47 doesn’t apply to chambers. Preliminary hearing in November made it clear that many issues such as disclosure remained to be resolved.

Oh God I can't cope with this.

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Strike out ruling would have to take all circumstances into account. Could be appropriate even in a discrimination claim. If little chance of success deposit of £1,000 could be required.
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Judge wil not summarize arguments. Merits are relevant to strike out, deposit order and amendment application. First amendment: section 57 is the proper home for this claim. Cites precedents. Chamber can be added in principle .

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Judge stout: In principle claimant can bring claim
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Judge Stout: claimant needs to identify individual for who GCC are responsible for actions.

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However individuals must be identified. Liability can only be attached to chambers if individuals are identified. Certainly in relation to victimization claim. However instruction claim doesn’t require it.

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Claimant must identify individuals within GCC. However judge is satisfied there is sufficient evidence to suggest there was discriminatory action.

SSA Tweet "Judge stout: In principle claimant can bring claim"
"Judge Stout: claimant needs to identify individual for who GCC are responsible for actions"

Am I seeing something positive here. Need to go off and do other stuff.

Go Allison

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Judge Stout: given way PCPs are expressed, claimant will also need to identify individuals who feel her views are not worthy of respect
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Judge Stout: Mr Cooper has produced sufficient evidence to make a ‘reasonably arguable case’

How does the Judge suggest AB does that? (ID individuals)

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Claimant must identify individuals within GCC. However judge is satisfied there is sufficient evidence to suggest there was discriminatory action

This seems to be good news. Is it good news? I am very lost

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Reasonably arguable case that some members of chambers were concerned about claimsnts tweets about launch of LGBA. Also evidence that Brewer was concerned and that she was acting on behalf of GC chambers.

I think it's good. Apologies for the badly formatted tweets, they don't copy and paste well but it's fast moving at the min.

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It is not necessary to establish evidential connections at this stage. “More than reasonably arguable case” that she suffered detriments because of her views.

Gosh, only just catching up with this. How utterly infuriating if it is indeed the case that simply withholding names can mean there is no case. It still (allegedly) happened!
Could they similarly release the names and argue that they are dead names and no-one is called that any more ergo no case?

It looks like Allison will be allowed to take the case forward.

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Judge Stout: There is evidence in bundle that suggests collusion between those from GCC and those connected with Stonewall

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I think it's good. Apologies for the badly formatted tweets, they don't copy and paste well but it's fast moving at the min.

Thank-you, you’re getting the tweets up here much quicker than I can see them even sitting on LGBA tweet feed!

oops, missed last 20 posts!

It's pretty good, all told.

Interesting that the judge have a name check herself to a senior member of chambers.