Surely it's more that if an organisation signs up to a scheme which supports the idea that trans women are women, or that gay people should be able to get married or whatever, and gets the benefits of that scheme on terms or PR, increased LGBT clients etc then they should abide by it's principle? Which might means diciplining a high profile person in the organisation who has very publically spoken out against those values? And if they don't then they might not longer be considered eligible for the scheme?
Sorry, not meaning to continue the derail, but this from jj yesterday has just kept on bothering me... it’s classic TRA conflation of trans rights with gay rights, and burying the “outrageous” position underneath them“perfectly reasonable” position, but surely what this comes down to is advocating totalitarianism in the workplace, isn’t it?
In the first example it’s not about the right of a minority group to do something that the rest of society is able to do, as per championing gay marriage. It’s about mandated belief in an ideology, pure and simple. “An organisation that signs up to a scheme which supports the idea that TWAW”. Not the right of trans people to marry, to live free from harassment, to have the same access to healthcare/housing/support services as everyone else, etc; no, the idea that TWAW is what’s being promoted here.
An ideological belief. Being forced upon people employed in every sector under the sun. Nurses, police officers, bankers, teachers, check out assistants, lawyers, council workers, academics, and so on and so on... as well as students and schoolchildren... all being told they must not publicly dissent from this ideology on pain of losing their jobs, their ability to make a living at all if they are then blacklisted in their entire sector. Or, in the case of students and schoolchildren, on pain of being ostracised and bullied by their peers (or even accused of and possibly charged with a hate crime, if the CPS hadn’t been forced by a legal challenge to withdraw their odious guidance).
What kind of societies run along these lines? What kind of societies force people to believe an ideology, on pain of all kinds of punishments, actual genuine punishments if they don’t, if they say out loud they don’t?
What kind of person sees that as a desirable scenario? And would quite blatantly propose this model as a perfectly reasonable way for society to be run?
What an insight into how far some people will take this, if no one challenges them. Absolutely chilling.