Dozens quit Green Party - Daily Mail

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9232663/Green-activists-fury-transgender-campaigner-head-womens-section.html

The second puberty tweet...

"My sister is on hand for any crying"
"Congrats on getting your titty skittles"

Omg those comments/tweets.

Made me feel quite sick tbh

Only men have the luxury of pretending sex doesn't exist.

@Whatsnewpussyhat

Only men have the luxury of pretending sex doesn't exist.

That should be on a tee shirt.

The Greens are just batshit

The Green Party retweeted this, no wonder women are leaving them. They really are stupid beyong belief.

twitter.com/LGBTIQAGreens/status/1357681068988649472

[quote Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons]The Science denialism really is quite terrifying “start second puberty”
mobile.twitter.com/KathrynBristow/status/1336664227709390849[/quote]
Creepy. There’s an obsession with puberty... Gender Gp have a lot to answer for...

Merrymouse, yes, there was a list of long-standing genuinely green female activists standing for various offices including this. I’ve heard that a crowd of young male Green Party members ‘identified’ as female for this election to get KB in. Some just for shits and giggles, I suppose, and some like Labour’s Momentum, pushing the currently fashionable anti-women line.

I remember in the early 80s in a bar being expected to call an obviously male person by a female name. I was quite naive at the time but even then was shocked at the way they pushed through women to get to the bar first, not even offering to buy for others. Definitely male entitlement. It has only got worse

Every time I'm at the Greens failing to respect women and women's boundaries (alongside the need to safeguard children) I take a quick read of the Verita, Westminster & IICSA reports to remind myself of their shameful history:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3832635-westminster-child-abuse-aimee-challenor-and-the-green-party

leftfootforward.org/2020/02/greens-accused-of-caring-more-about-protecting-their-image-then-protecting-children/

Looks like Bristow retweets Mimmymum and McKinnon (now Veronica Ivy), no surprises there then.

Eowynthewarrior that's an interesting point, especially in a country like the UK which is both sexist and car dependent. I'll counter it and say that green policies can really work for women in cities, if done right.

I've lived in cities in 3 different countries in Europe, none of which encouraged car use. City 1 was in a really misogynist country where I didn't go out after dark on my own and didn't trust the public transport, so entirely fits your description. But it also wasn't safe to cycle, so I had to trust to walking without being followed or harassed if I was avoiding the metro. City 2 was more neutral, but was better than British cities in that there were always local shops and schools so you never had to walk far, because it was designed to be accessible. Plus, it was more civilised misogynist: not much daycare or support for working women, but always someone to help you lift your buggy, hold a toddler's hand or help with the shopping in an old fashioned gentlemanly way. City 3 was a cycling city with excellent public infrastructure. I'd actually say that with small children it was the easiest because you put the kids on your bike, then cycle right up to the door of the shop or school, no fuss about parking and buggies. I also felt safest on my bike at 4am on my own, because it's pretty hard for anyone to follow or grab you on a bike. The public transport was designed with both safety and access in mind, and also meant that kids were independent younger, both on bikes and transport, so less taxiing and women can get on with life.

So I guess my conclusion is that half-arsed green schemes don't work, and won't ever work for anyone (men, women, disabled, parents, children), but done properly they can actually reduce a lot of the load on women that is just assumed in the UK (like taxiing children, inconvenient shops, poor connections between workplace and school). Feminist town planning is definitely a thing, and should also be green.

I do admire Emma Bateman, co chair of the women's group:

'Thank you to everyone who voted for me, I am pleased to be re-elected as a co chair for Green Party Women. It is going to be an interesting year , I am sure. I will continue to stand up for the sex based rights of women and girls. Because sexism is real, just as sex is real.'

Brave woman.

@WendyTestaburger

According to that article, Bristow believes that if the class of sex is abolished sexism disappears. So why on earth have they put themselves forward as a woman's officer? Surely the role is redundant? And why do they have an LGBTQ group, has homophobia not disappeared along with sexism?

I wonder how Bristow believes that sexism has disappeared from my life, now they have declared that the class of sex no longer exists?

From the article :

The party's grassroots have been further outraged by an email sent to LGBTQ+ members urging them not to include motions for discussion on items such as 'women's sex-based rights' which were labelled as 'non-inclusive'.

You'd think a left leaning newspaper like the Guardian might like to pick up something as nakedly outrageous as that memo. Only kidding of course! The Guardian don't give a shit about women. And yet many people won't read the above article because they won't click a Mail Link.

Daily Mail are vile along with tabloids. I blame them for infecting other professions .

As for The Guardian in fairness - they have done more for womens rights than any other Mainstream paper.

@Whatsnewpussyhat

Only men have the luxury of pretending sex doesn't exist.

👏 👏 👏

I’m nicking that....

@Wandawomble

The Greens are just batshit

Are they still campaigning to use sheep as traffic calming measures?

Have to give them recognition for persistence in creating a better environment.

I remember Natalie Bennett, Sturgeon and Leanne Woods on a political debate.
That was one hell of an oestrogen blast!

@ArabellaScott

I do admire Emma Bateman, co chair of the women's group:

'Thank you to everyone who voted for me, I am pleased to be re-elected as a co chair for Green Party Women. It is going to be an interesting year , I am sure. I will continue to stand up for the sex based rights of women and girls. Because sexism is real, just as sex is real.'

Brave woman.

Yes she is, especially since the party leadership side with the gender extremists and hound others out of the party.

Emma Bateman is the only reason I'm still a green party member. I can't imagine how horribly hostile and difficult her role must be at the moment, feel like the least I can do is to stick around and show her some solidarity. But I agree that the greens are a lost cause and institutionally anti woman in their green initiatives.

The point someone made about cycle paths is bang on. I live near a lovely cycle path and by day it really is full of families and people of both sexes exercising. By about 5pm only men can use it because we've had just so many women be physically and sexually assaulted using it. Multiple reports a month going up to multiple reports a week during the dark winter months. Women being deliberately knocked off their bikes whilst cycling, women being stabbed while running, women being raped walking home from work. This is a "nice" area btw, expensive houses, good schools, low crime apart from these attacks. Some women are campaigning atm to have the path fully lit with street lights through the night to make it safer but they've had lots of resistence from male eco activists on the grounds that it would upset the local wildlife, especially the glow worms. Happy glow worms are more important than women not being raped apparently.

They managed to arrest two of the attackers and they were both boys. Actual boys of 13 and 15. Sexual dimorphism means that women aren't even safe from actual children but we're supposed to believe that grown men have no advantages over us? The Green Party are totally fucked up.

If talking social status, I view women as treated as second class citizens. When referred to as non trans or whatever the term - demoted to 3rd class!

The onus is on you all to assert yourselves!

So, do it by reminding them of your inner qualities and loyalty.

Women are strong and hold all kinds of shit together. They rarely walk out on kids.
They see it all through in terms of raising family.
Such qualities women have ( naturally) are seriously undervalued.

Unfortunately, like the demographic of those referred to GIDS, there are a lot of (mostly young) people in the party who have been somehow traumatised and who are vulnerable and are involved in campaigns around injustice because of their own life experiences. Many of these are probably diagnosable with personality disorders or complex PTSD. It's clear that Aimee Challenor was traumatised, we know less about the background of other people, but you can tell from their behaviour that things aren't right beyond the normal search for identity in teens and twenties.

Unfortunately, many of the grown-ups in the party are not behaving like grown-ups in providing appropriate support to young people but are pandering to tantrums and demands that women should STFU. This isn't acting in the best interests of traumatised young people who would be better served by being pointed in the direction of support to help them work through their difficulties less publicly. That might sound patronising but I was once a traumatised young person and I can see their behaviour reflected in my own past and the stories of others like me who are now older. I wish someone had kindly pulled me aside and helped me rather than enabling me to carry on as if my distress was normal and everyone else was the problem.

Great post ByGrab. That is appalling.

I gave up on the Greens when they became the SNP's poodle here in Scotland. Shame, as I have been "green" for a very long time but they are very easily bought and I disagree with their TWAW policy.

I find myself being reminded time and again lately, particularly with talk of Labour using the flag and nationalism, that the extreme left was noted for manipulation "for the greater good".

Not that the right are any better. I have not forgotten Cameron's fascination with 'nudge theory', even if it has quietly dropped out of public conversations.

All sides would benefit from women being removed from the labour pool.

Membership appears to be about 52,000 and about 40 women have left. I wish it were more because in my book, that doesn't really do much, unless they were all very actively involved.