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'T*rf Wars' documentary on YouTube

58 replies

Socrates11 · 30/01/2021 05:13

This is a great compilation of the key arguments made. Well worth a watch.

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Awning10 · 30/01/2021 08:57

Thanks for the link. Watching now.

Fastedbrownie · 30/01/2021 09:00

Love some Blair White.

PolarnOPirate · 30/01/2021 09:29

I’m only 20 mins in but this is brilliant, thanks for sharing.

fakenina · 30/01/2021 09:35

This is great, should be used in schools imo

Awning10 · 30/01/2021 09:36

It's dynamite!

ladyslattern · 30/01/2021 11:14

Thanks for posting. Penny dropped for me - why didn't trans rights go the way of LGB rights - safety, dignity, equality, respect. I've supported that for decades and still do and it's what the majority of trans folk want. Instead it's gone down a route of appropriating the rights of another group of people - women and the medicalisation of childhood behaviours that have been part of the rich tapestry of childhood for centuries. The potential profits for big pharma from medicating the 4000% more girls who feel they are boys are mind blowing. At least the Bell judgement will mean scrupulous care will have to be taken before PBs can be prescribed to children.

Winesalot · 30/01/2021 11:26

This is brilliant!!

Socrates11 · 30/01/2021 16:07

Couple of things stand out for me from the doc.

Seeing how the young men's misogyny finds an outlet over JKRowling (13-15mins) is stark. I knew many young men like this when I was growing up. To think that porn culture (well pointed out later in doc) is making this much worse is beyond disappointing.

How Dr JC Jones is so measured, reasonable and bang on the argument in her interview with Glinner is brilliant. Will have to rewatch the whole thing again.

"A Rapist in Your Path gives me goosebumps. And the women reading out the shit rules that are different for men and women around the world just stitch the misogyny together so we know we have to keep fighting all of it when we can.

Actually there's more than a couple of things about this documentary but I'm real glad other people find it excellent too 😍

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fastwigglylines · 30/01/2021 19:00

I wonder who made this. I'd bet good money they've not asked for permission from any of the people in the film, it's all ripped off from other places.

fastwigglylines · 30/01/2021 19:01

How Dr JC Jones is so measured, reasonable and bang on the argument in her interview with Glinner is brilliant. Will have to rewatch the whole thing again.

Yes, she's great. The original interview is here:

Winesalot · 30/01/2021 19:03

@fastwigglylines

I wonder who made this. I'd bet good money they've not asked for permission from any of the people in the film, it's all ripped off from other places.
Why do you think that?

They released a trailer a while back, so probably had time to get permissions. Or is that the one thing you can pick apart from it.

fastwigglylines · 30/01/2021 19:13

Why do you think that?

Because all the content is made elsewhere as far as I can see, none is original for this video. And I can't see the likes of serious feminists like Jane Clare Jones and Sheila Jeffries agreeing to be in a video with Posie Parker and Blaire White, let alone Jordan fucking Peterson.

Winesalot · 30/01/2021 19:27

That is an interesting perspective. I guess I would like to believe that JCJ and Sheila Jefferies would be agreeable for being in a professionally made clip that pulls together a wide variety of media to provide an informative overview. Jane has not tweeted anything and she seems to be someone who would be right on the ball with something like this.

I guess you probably know more about it than me though. I did not know either of those people would be the ones who would object.

rabbitwoman · 30/01/2021 19:58

I think this video has been made of clips that are all in the public domain.

Socrates11 · 30/01/2021 20:34

Not for profit, for educational purposes only according to YouTube blurb. As previously said made up of clips in public domain.

'T*rf Wars' documentary on YouTube
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rabbitwoman · 30/01/2021 21:40

Just finished watching this.

Dedicated to magdalen burns.

Brilliant, and I shared it to Facebook.

Guess everyone I know now knows I am a Terf.....

Pudmyboy · 30/01/2021 21:46

Absolutely amazing. I had often wondered how the movement got so big so fast, now I understand more. I am heartened by the number of trans people who are also concerned. A lot to think about. Thank you.

TinaBarrow · 30/01/2021 21:53

fastwiggly you'require wrong about Kellie-Jay and Sheila Jeffreys

Watch "Sheila Jeffreys "Trigger Warning - My Lesbian Feminist Life"" on YouTube

ilovegreen · 30/01/2021 21:57

Very powerful- I will be sharing with my woke family. So many strong bits in there - Jennifer Belik really explains what’s fuelling it

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ViperAtTheGatesOfDawn · 31/01/2021 00:20

@fastwigglylines

Why do you think that?

Because all the content is made elsewhere as far as I can see, none is original for this video. And I can't see the likes of serious feminists like Jane Clare Jones and Sheila Jeffries agreeing to be in a video with Posie Parker and Blaire White, let alone Jordan fucking Peterson.

Sheila Jeffreys has spoken at Posie's events, so I'm sure she'd be fine with that Grin
TheHeartbeat · 31/01/2021 00:23

Thanks for this!

Datun · 31/01/2021 12:27

That's an excellent video.

So much info. So many links. Unafraid and honest.

It should be required viewing for all MPs.

NotFabulousDarling · 31/01/2021 13:30

Thanks for sharing this. I started watching this last night. My husband was next to me and even turned off terrestrial TV to pay attention. We stayed up until 3am watching but there's another 30 minutes to go, when the baby goes for his nap. So far it's been really coherent and well-put together, especially if it was clips as PPs said.

Datun · 31/01/2021 13:52

The American woman near the end who said that the money LGBT generates has gone from x billion to nearly four trillion in five years was very good. Articulate and incredulous.

Not sure who she was?