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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sarah Phillimore suspended from twitter

354 replies

anothermimsyborogove · 26/01/2021 00:52

Barrister, women's right campaigner, mumsnetter @spero, and hero, Sarah Phillimore has been suspended from Twitter. Actor David Paisley and others are gloating about it.

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notanothermimsyborogove · 26/01/2021 11:43

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Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

MondayYogurt · 26/01/2021 11:56

Nevermind all the good MN does for people trapped in domestic abuse, lonely people, women struggling with breastfeeding and working and navigating a world determined to deny us a voice.

Sarah Phillimore suspended from twitter
NecessaryScene1 · 26/01/2021 12:01

MNHQ appear to have just nuked a possible etymology of the words "prosper" and "speed". Hmm

Am currently staring cross-eyed at the copy open in my other tab trying to see the magic-eye alt-right dog whistle. This is a tough one.

fatblackcatspaw · 26/01/2021 12:22

please don't tell me lingusitics is now on the BANNED LIST? I'm trying to keep my posting rights...

WiltingAtTreadmills · 26/01/2021 12:22

Some ppl should be careful what they wish for when asking "let's drop the pretence".

This is the person that took a transwoman to court and worked for an org that put their trans child clients' confidential data and emails discussing their treatment publicly online.

NecessaryScene1 · 26/01/2021 12:29

please don't tell me lingusitics is now on the BANNED LIST?

It's possible one of the mod's is really picky about dodgy etymology without proper citations. You get some like that.

fatblackcatspaw · 26/01/2021 12:31

They must never never go to my Yiddish class were the orgins of words are picked over normally with the mere help of having several members fluent in things like Aramaic, modern Arabic, Hebrew, German etc. We do occasionally resort to dictionaries.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 26/01/2021 12:37

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 26/01/2021 12:39

Ooooooh!

Sorry @WiltingAtTreadmills!!

On my phone and didn't see the attachment you are referring to!

Ignore my last post!! My apologies

Aaaargh!

NecessaryScene1 · 26/01/2021 12:46

Is taking transwomen to court itself a hate crime these days?

It's an example of trying to harm a trans person on totally spurious grounds (spurious enough for it to be immediately thrown out when the judge saw it, at least). Which is more harm than any of us here have ever done to a trans person.

Here's one newspaper report:

archive.is/Xlrsa

At one point during the hearing, Judge Woollard said: ‘Where is the evidence [of harassment] taking into account the need for free speech? You have to show a course of conduct and at the moment we have one tweet. Where is the evidence for Miranda Yardley outing Ms Islan’s son?’ Later he threw out the case and awarded costs to the defendant.

Yardley told The Mail on Sunday afterwards that he was ‘horrified’ by the decision to charge him, saying: ‘I faced losing everything I worked for.’

Miranda's own piece about it: uncommongroundmedia.com/miranda-yardley-transsexual-prosecuted-transgender-hate-crime/

In spite of playing victim, defence evidence showed that Islan undertakes exactly the sort of behaviour for which she was trying to have me prosecuted.

Under her own Twitter account, Islan regularly instigates vicious personal attacks against people she disagrees with. In particular, Islan instigated Twitter pile-ons, posting vicious personal attacks on women like Stephanie Davies-Arai, Michele Moore and Heather Brunskell-Evans, women who like me do not believe that children can be born into the wrong body.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 26/01/2021 12:49

Thanks @NecessaryScene1 I realised my error and have apologised and asked MN to pull that post.

I was being a twonk... didn't read the attachment and made an incorrect connection!

Now I can see the attachment I properly understand the comment!

But a full explanation of the stupidity that was that case is never a waste Grin

NecessaryScene1 · 26/01/2021 12:49

Ah, okay, I was replying to CuriousaboutSamphire's deleted comment. I see the confusion. Still, it's a good reminder who "mimmymum" is.

(Is "notanothermimsyborogove" mimmymum? Was that the deletion reason? I don't think so - the post seemed too advanced.)

CuriousaboutSamphire · 26/01/2021 12:51

Ooh! That's a good shout! I didn't see the post before it was deleted... pm me the gist of it maybe???

NecessaryScene1 · 26/01/2021 12:55

Oh, the deleted post was something totally innocuous suggesting other English words possibly related to "spero".

As far as I could see. But you can never tell - those dog whistles can be very high pitched. Maybe there was an association to a "well known" neo-Nazi Latin slogan, or it could have been a really cunning screenshot attempt to tie us into Qanon or something.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 26/01/2021 12:56

Ah! A de -spero- tion deletion!

NecessaryScene1 · 26/01/2021 12:58
Biscuit
fatblackcatspaw · 26/01/2021 13:04

First they came for the feminists
then they came for the sporty women
then they cancelled the embrodierers
THEN THE ANGLO SAXON EXPERTS!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 26/01/2021 13:05

??? Are we talking at cross purpose @NecessaryScene1

I've never been given on of those before Grin

RozWatching · 26/01/2021 13:07

"In particular, Islan instigated Twitter pile-ons, posting vicious personal attacks on women like Stephanie Davies-Arai, Michele Moore and Heather Brunskell-Evans, women who like me do not believe that children can be born into the wrong body."

I had almost forgotten about that case Shock
MY was lucky to have a sensible judge.

Spero Brew
You really seemed to attract the worst of the worst of Twitter stalkers. The episode with the CEO of that California-based 'child protection' organisation was particularly chilling.

MaudTheInvincible · 26/01/2021 13:08

what I am saying must have been worth something for them to go to all this effort

Ain't that the truth!

These people who disagree with protecting children do raise my suspicions somewhat.

Spero · 26/01/2021 13:11

haha, my problem is that ALL the people I have pissed off over the years (a very, very long list) have now banded together. In the many years of their concentrated efforts they have attempted numerous complaints to my regulator, threatened police and libel action etc etc etc.

Getting me bounced of Twitter is their biggest (only?) success to date, so lets give them some recognition for the fairly small fruits of this quite intensive labour.

Waves to minniymum! Too late to complain now isn't it? We have gathered, we are educated and you do not have the courts in your power anymore.

Justhadathought · 26/01/2021 13:14

The most important work is being done away from twitter. She's best off away from it. It is such a compromising place for anyone with a public role or presence.

womanity · 26/01/2021 13:19

Years ago, when all was green round here, I had a ‘debate’ with Spero about something related to child protection. She wiped the floor with me. 😂

Go Sarah. 💪

NecessaryScene1 · 26/01/2021 13:20

I've never been given on of those before

I'd hope you've never made such a bad "pun" before.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 26/01/2021 13:24
Grin