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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

C**t as a derogative term.

197 replies

Billie18 · 16/01/2021 21:27

Makes my blood boil every time I hear it uses as a derogative term.

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HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee · 16/01/2021 22:51

Gynaecologists used To be colloquially called cunt polishers

LizFlowers · 16/01/2021 22:56

Billie18 Sat 16-Jan-21 22:39:36

HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee

If it offends your middle class sensibilities that’s tough titty and demonstrably illustrates your lack of understanding about language and dialect
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My offense has nothing to do with reference to a body part it has to do with a specifically female body part being used to signify something generally derogative. f C**t was used to signify something great or good I would be fine with it.
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I agree with you, op. It is also nothing to do with class!

Quite honestly, how often does anyone hear the word used in real life in the way it is often bandied about on here? It just isn't. It's vile and totally unnecessary to say it.

HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee · 16/01/2021 23:00

@LizFlowers, as I’ve explained at length cunt is a word in everyday use in Ireland & Scotland. It’s not a vulgar or uncouth utterance it’s a slang term used by men and women

It just isn't. It's vile and totally unnecessary to say it. No. It’s not vile and it’s in everyday usage. Because you don’t like it,and don’t use it doesn’t render it vile or unnecessary. You’re imposing your interpretation of manners upon the word

bourbonne · 16/01/2021 23:03

@PlanDeRaccordement

Meh. It’s just the old Saxon word for vagina. It became a term of disparagement when the Normans invaded. Harold’s men chanted to William the Bastards men “Out Out Yon Cunt” before the battle of Hastings. Ever since then, it’s been a way of punching up- oppressed Saxon to Norman overlord down though the ages to East Londoner to West Londoner.
Oh come on, this sounds like folk etymology if ever I heard it! Next you will be saying that sticking two fingers up comes from the battle of Agincourt Grin
PlanDeRaccordement · 16/01/2021 23:07

@bourbonne
Heh, yes that is correct. It’s a folk tale. No historical evidence for it.

NiceGerbil · 16/01/2021 23:13

Heels it is where I live.

Different swear words carry different levels of insult in different areas/ countries.

Round here it is most definitely the strongest 'swear' and it's not pointless for people who live in those areas to think about why.

On TV earlier (taskmaster) someone was using lots of swear words and the only one they bleeped was cunt.

In some parts of the UK it is definitely a step past fuck and the pinnacle of swear words.

tabulahrasa · 16/01/2021 23:16

“Quite honestly, how often does anyone hear the word used in real life in the way it is often bandied about on here? It just isn't.“

I hear it much often in real life than see it on here tbh... but then I’m Scottish... so...

HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee · 16/01/2021 23:20

I’m not disputing it’s a swearie word I am taking issue with the proclamations that it’s an indicator of poor education, uncouth etc
Trinity linguistics dept consider swearing to be indicative of a wide & deep language repertoire

PlanDeRaccordement · 16/01/2021 23:26

Historical evidence for cunt in English. The first known reference in English apparently is in a compound Oxford street name: Gropecunt Lane from c. 1230 (and attested through late 14c.) in "Place-Names of Oxfordshire" (Gelling & Stenton, 1953),

A lane that was presumably based on profession similar to other street names like Glovers Lane, or Mill Lane, Dairy Lane, etc.

LizFlowers · 16/01/2021 23:26

[quote HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee]@LizFlowers, as I’ve explained at length cunt is a word in everyday use in Ireland & Scotland. It’s not a vulgar or uncouth utterance it’s a slang term used by men and women

It just isn't. It's vile and totally unnecessary to say it. No. It’s not vile and it’s in everyday usage. Because you don’t like it,and don’t use it doesn’t render it vile or unnecessary. You’re imposing your interpretation of manners upon the word[/quote]
I know many people from Scotland and Ireland and will ask them if that is true.

HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee · 16/01/2021 23:29

Go on then

PoppiesinOctober · 16/01/2021 23:31

I know many people from Scotland and Ireland and will ask them if that is true.

I'm surprised you even need to ask. It's an everyday word in Scotland.

LizFlowers · 16/01/2021 23:57

@PoppiesinOctober

I know many people from Scotland and Ireland and will ask them if that is true.

I'm surprised you even need to ask. It's an everyday word in Scotland.

All over Scotland, in every strata of society? I doubt it.
HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee · 16/01/2021 23:59

Convenient that you doubt it,well you would say that wouldn’t you

SquirtleSquad · 17/01/2021 00:07

Interesting googling the Scottish usage of cunt

C**t as a derogative term.
C**t as a derogative term.
C**t as a derogative term.
SquirtleSquad · 17/01/2021 00:07

It's becoming one of those words in my head now that I've over said and now sounds strange

C**t as a derogative term.
HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee · 17/01/2021 00:09

Haw ya mad cunt is a pretty standard greeting

NiceGerbil · 17/01/2021 00:14

The OP obviously lives in an area where it is the strongest swear word, and so do I.

I'm not sure why this is being derailed by whether it is strong or not in other areas. It's really not the point.

I get what she's saying, anyway.

Out of interest, what are the strongest swear words for those posting about Scotland/ Ireland?

HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee · 17/01/2021 00:22

It’s not derailed in the least but it simply is not true to assert use of word cunt is
Uncouth
Uneducated
Vile
Uneducated

Linguistically and culturally It’s embedded in Irish and Scottish Language and is in everyday parlance

Just because certain regions don’t use it, or it’s considered bad manners doesn’t render it vile etc

NiceGerbil · 17/01/2021 00:27

OP hasnt said any of that though so it is a derail.

LoveFall · 17/01/2021 00:30

The "c" word is considered very, very crude in Canada. Almost completely taboo. The only time I have had it used towards me were a couple of threats (due to my job) where they were bad enough to call police.

Just in case anyone gets to travel ever again...

HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee · 17/01/2021 00:31

No
The thread accumulated answers, we all respond,some in agreement some not
That’s not how it works. There’s no expectation one must agree with the op to post

LoveFall · 17/01/2021 00:35

https://www.youtube.com/watch/iwBR0qwHZBA

MissBarbary · 17/01/2021 00:41

@HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee

In Irish and Scottish slang it’s a colloquialism and pretty much in everyday parlance And it’s not offensive because it doesn’t refer to female anatomy
I can't speak for Ireland but cunt is absolutely not used in "everyday parlance" in Scotland.
MiddleClassMother · 17/01/2021 00:41

I don't mind it, it's just usually used by rough people. I think the last time I heard it was in a pub.