Gay men's magazine bullied into grovelling

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twitter.com/BoyzMagazine/status/1332052779871965186

Looks like they're gunning for gay men now. Anything other than complete agreement is no good.

Readers here will be used to this sort of insanity:
twitter.com/robholley/status/1332054419337334789
I wonder if it will wake up those who have not seen it before?

@Highwind

I, along with many other women both lesbian and Heterosexual have used a vibrator, as it stimulates the clit, which is a bundle of nerves that are the main pleasure centre for most women and very much external (no penetration needed), I have never used and have no intention of ever using a dildo or any non-organic penetration device.

I think you would find, if you actually spoke to women or had any actual female experience that I am very much in the majority there.

Conflating vibrator use with strap-on use... whatever next!

I didn't conflate the two. I've said all the way through I think basic hygiene information about commonly used toys is a good idea in RSE. Sharing toys can lead to STDs. Unclean toys can lead to infection. I think young people should be aware of that . Otherwise they will seek out information elsewhere like youtube as the link I posted from the Daily Mail of all places explained.

@SophocIestheFox

Silly Datun, it’s all very clearly explained in lesbian porn for men, which we should be showing in RSE, as long as it’s inclusive lesbian porn.

Or summat. I’m a bit lost now, I’ve clutched my pearls so hard I’ve cut off the oxygen to my brain.

🤣🤣🤣 same here. Cutting off the oxygen to my brain, blisters on my hands, and squashed pearls.

Read my post as to what is ‘untrue’

@jj1968

Men's attitude in general to lesbians is always so revealing. Sex without a penis appears particularly hard to compute.

Your innocence and naivity about the wide diversity of LGBT sexualities is telling @Datun

As someone with no desire whatsoever to use my penis to have sex with its actually pretty easy to compute given I still manage to have sexual relationships.

Yeah, I'm not the one confusing dildos with strap ons. (I could probably work in a pun about chalk and cheese in there, given time).

Neither am I the one advocating educating children about strap ons and anal sex. Or being worried about giving young people too much information, in case it means they don't want to do it.

And that's what, the third or fourth time you've mentioned your penis and whether or not you want to penetrate somebody else with it? Give it a rest.

Also, people highlighting what you, yourself, are saying isn't a 'personal attack'.

And please don't try the old chestnut about if we don't tell children all about , they might end up doing it wrong.

Seriously. How many times do you think we've heard that on here??

To paraphrase twitter, "yes you did, dude".

I have said over and over and over again that you need to stop going on about lesbians and strap ons. Most recently I said I don't want young lesbians hearing they should be using strap ons in school.

You: but here's a link about vibrators!

Either you were conflating strap ons and vibrators, or you just randomly posted a link for no reason. If you weren't conflating them, that link was as relevant to my post as a link on the usage of blue pigment in Renaissance Italian art.

I am so sick of men dictating my sexuality. Maybe I should move to clitheroe and embrace lesbian separatism - I hear males have a problem finding it on a map....

I mentioned I wasn't into penetrative sex twice @Datun, both times in response to you, once for accusing me of being phallocentric and not being able to understand any kind of sex without a penis and once because you implied my support for inclusive RSE education was because I wanted to have anal sex with women.

Or they might seek out the information on the packaging that the toy comes in if, at any point when they're an adult, they choose to use one.

And you did conflate the two jj1968. You posted a link to a study about adult lesbians using vibrators to support your point about why children need information about using strap ons in RSE.

Girls are taught about female bodily hygiene from when they're two years old. I can't imagine why you think caring adults would wait until their daughters are in secondary school to teach them this.

@WaveWalker

I am so sick of men dictating my sexuality. Maybe I should move to clitheroe and embrace lesbian separatism - I hear males have a problem finding it on a map....

Shush. You'll be told you're uncomfortable with LGB sexualities and that your homophobia is why the GC movement is being rejected by the "LGBT" movement at large.

jj1968 I think the point is that there was no need for you to mention your penis or sexual preferences on a thread about RSE education in schools.

Aside possibly to demonstrate why it needs to be created within a safeguarding framework appropriate for children.

@jj1968

I mentioned I wasn't into penetrative sex twice *@Datun*, both times in response to you, once for accusing me of being phallocentric and not being able to understand any kind of sex without a penis and once because you implied my support for inclusive RSE education was because I wanted to have anal sex with women.

"Men's attitude in general to lesbians is always so revealing. Sex without a penis appears particularly hard to compute."

Since when are you 'men in general'? There is definitely something centric going on.

@christinarossetti19

Or they might seek out the information on the packaging that the toy comes in if, at any point when they're an adult, they choose to use one.

And you did conflate the two jj1968. You posted a link to a study about adult lesbians using vibrators to support your point about why children need information about using strap ons in RSE.

Girls are taught about female bodily hygiene from when they're two years old. I can't imagine why you think caring adults would wait until their daughters are in secondary school to teach them this.

I have referred to strap ons once and toys several times. There seemed to be equal objection to both being mentioned in RSE.

Hey, jj why don't you have a chat with the lads at datalounge about how evil the GC movement is?

They might not notice your persistent assumption that female homosexuals want to mimick PIV. Don't start on this one though.

www.datalounge.com/thread/27439073-quoting-posts-for-a-linguistic-study-female-pronouns-

@christinarossetti19

jj1968 I think the point is that there was no need for you to mention your penis or sexual preferences on a thread about RSE education in schools.

Aside possibly to demonstrate why it needs to be created within a safeguarding framework appropriate for children.

So its okay for people to attack me based on what they assume my preferences are but if I correct them I'm doing something wrong. Okay that seems very reasonable. Rolls eyes.

People are expecting a lot from pshe to be fair

Its got to cover relationships, drugs, alcohol, general health stuff, radicalisation, abuse etc as well as sex education which includes porn, sexual health and others that I can’t remember

If you went down the ‘lets cover EVERYTHING sex wise’ theyd have no time for maths

Oh wait....ive made that sound like a bad thing 🤔

So its okay for people to attack me based on what they assume my preferences are but if I correct them I'm doing something wrong. Okay that seems very reasonable. Rolls eyes.

Copy and pasting what you, yourself, have said, isn't an attack. If you don't want people to repeat what you say, don't say it.

Talking about men in general, isn't talking about you.

I have absolutely no hint of what your sexuality or preference is. I couldn't care less.

No one cares about your preferences mate.
Thats the point. Please stop telling us about it.

If everyone just ignored Colin Robinson, he would not feel so special and might go away. You won't change his mind.

@RufustheSniggeringReindeer

People are expecting a lot from pshe to be fair

Its got to cover relationships, drugs, alcohol, general health stuff, radicalisation, abuse etc as well as sex education which includes porn, sexual health and others that I can’t remember

If you went down the ‘lets cover EVERYTHING sex wise’ theyd have no time for maths

I'd have been happy to drop art, cookery and drama instead.

We had this art and drama teacher who was really down with da kidz who used to ask us to design tattoos. It was embarrassing.

Schools can't teach everything. They need to teach people to read, write, think critically, how to find information.

They do not need to teach about any particular sexual practice. Just what measure are needed to be safe.

They need to teach consent and boundaries. People should only ever be involved in sex that they enthusiastically consent to.

I would tell them to be wary of men who like to talk about lesbian's sex lives, as by definition it is nothing to do with them.

And be very wary of men who can't see how inappropriate that is, even after he's been specifically told so.

pothole

I don’t remember sex ed at senior school

I may have blocked the full horror out

I do remember it at junior school cos it was fucking weird

Many women, gay and straight, use all sorts of sex toys both alone and during sex. Sex toys are not something strictly reserved for lesbians, talking about sex toys in RSE wouldn't constitute 'LGBT sex education'?!

So either 15 year old kids need to be told about the huge vast array of sex toys available, everything from strap ons to sliver bullets to Tracy's Dog, or they don't need to be told about any of it by their adult teacher and can figure that stuff out themselves outside of the classroom at an age appropriate time.

It's really strange - we all know that blokes think that all women want (no matter what their sexuality) is cock, either real or fake, but to see it in real time action on this thread is really quite something!