Gay men's magazine bullied into grovelling

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twitter.com/BoyzMagazine/status/1332052779871965186

Looks like they're gunning for gay men now. Anything other than complete agreement is no good.

Readers here will be used to this sort of insanity:
twitter.com/robholley/status/1332054419337334789
I wonder if it will wake up those who have not seen it before?

"I don't care who uses strap-ons. I do deeply care about lesbian teenagers hearing that strap-ons should be a part of their sex life. I also would prefer it if male teenagers weren't encouraged to think that bollocks, as lesbians get fetishised enough by phallocentric men."

I haven't once suggested that RSE classes tell anyone that anything 'should' be part of their sex lives. Simply telling someone something exists and this is a way to do it safely is not telling people they should do it, anymore more than telliung young people about piv sex is telling young LGB people they have to do it.

There's a large study here btw showing that 75% of lesbians use toys: www.researchgate.net/publication/51701237_Prevalence_and_Characteristics_of_Vibrator_Use_among_Women_who_have_Sex_with_Women

What did you Google to find that study, do you mind me asking?

It's from 2011 and it's about use of vibrators not strap ons.

No, to a teenager, covering something in lessons normalises it.

I'm dead. I'm absolutely dead.

I, along with many other women both lesbian and Heterosexual have used a vibrator, as it stimulates the clit, which is a bundle of nerves that are the main pleasure centre for most women and very much external (no penetration needed), I have never used and have no intention of ever using a dildo or any non-organic penetration device.

I think you would find, if you actually spoke to women or had any actual female experience that I am very much in the majority there.

Conflating vibrator use with strap-on use... whatever next!

The question is however, do you think children need to be introduced to a vibrator in school?

Its Sunday afternoon now.

[quote jj1968]"I don't care who uses strap-ons. I do deeply care about lesbian teenagers hearing that strap-ons should be a part of their sex life. I also would prefer it if male teenagers weren't encouraged to think that bollocks, as lesbians get fetishised enough by phallocentric men."

I haven't once suggested that RSE classes tell anyone that anything 'should' be part of their sex lives. Simply telling someone something exists and this is a way to do it safely is not telling people they should do it, anymore more than telliung young people about piv sex is telling young LGB people they have to do it.

There's a large study here btw showing that 75% of lesbians use toys: www.researchgate.net/publication/51701237_Prevalence_and_Characteristics_of_Vibrator_Use_among_Women_who_have_Sex_with_Women[/quote]
A vibrator is not a strap on.

Not all sex toys are diodes, despite your male teenage porn experience.

They're certainly not diodes.

I meant to type not all sex toys are dildos.

I do remember my mum being all "think of the children!" when she found out I was gay in my teens. Massive homophobia, and I was told all lesbians were murderers, paedophiles AND HAD TO USE FAKE PENISES TO HAVE SEX.

That's the only other time I've been told that strap ons ate essential to the lesbian experience tbf - by a hugely uninformed homophobe.

*are essential to

Can we please discuss diodes instead? Or cake?

And no, this plea is not evidence I am uncomfortable with "LGB sexualities". I'm umcomfortable with the phallocentric fetishisation of lesbians, the perpetual attempts to conflate lesbians with gay and bisexual men as if women can't have unique needs of their own, and being lectured on female sexuality by people who think the clitoris is a Greek island and learnt about lesbians from a 70s porn video with strap-ons. That's what I'm uncomfortable with.

Many people are really surprised that children would need to be taught what to do, most of think that isn't the problem, the problem is making sure they protect themselves mentally and physically.

That's really the only necessity for 'sex Ed' in schools (I'd include in 'protecting mentally' consent and rejection of homophobia and guilt for fully consensual sex)

Covering the details of all varieties of sexual practice is about as necessary as teaching kids every possible sport or type of dancing.

Lots of things exist.
Where do you draw the line on which things children should be told about and instructed how to do safely?
Some people like being tied up? Shall we add knot tying to sex education?
Why do children need to know about all of these things that exist?
Why cant they learn what they like organically together when they're ready to explore different aspects of their sexuality, after they have been taught about consent, and how to create safe environments from a sexual health pov and a protecting their own boundaries pov.

Damn , got all excited by diode talk,,.it was the basis one of my interview questions

@midgebabe

Damn , got all excited by diode talk,,.it was the basis one of my interview questions

But diodes are biphobic. They only go one way.

@midgebabe

Damn , got all excited by diode talk,,.it was the basis one of my interview questions

@Blibbyblobby Diodes also have kink/s&m/top and bottom connotations; they act as a switch. Ban this sick filth.

Did someone actually post a link on vibrators and used that as evidence for the use of strap-ons?

This just took the discussion to a new low. The lack of understanding of women is unbelievable. And for the record, I do not want vibrators as a part of the Sex-Ed either.

@PotholeParadies

Can we please discuss diodes instead? Or cake?

And no, this plea is not evidence I am uncomfortable with "LGB sexualities". I'm umcomfortable with the phallocentric fetishisation of lesbians, the perpetual attempts to conflate lesbians with gay and bisexual men as if women can't have unique needs of their own, and being lectured on female sexuality by people who think the clitoris is a Greek island and learnt about lesbians from a 70s porn video with strap-ons. That's what I'm uncomfortable with.

Yes to this.

Wave, you sick puppy 😮

jj, it is inappropriate to talk about strap ons with a class of teenagers for the same reason that it would be inappropriate to talk about fleshlights or gimp suits or how some people get off by being whipped or treated like a dog or a baby. Not because of homophobia but because a class of 15 year olds do not need to know about these things.
Chances are, most of them already have a good idea that these things exist (and I loathe the insistence you get on some threads that if your son is over the age of about 10 then you're deluding yourself if you don't think he's regularly watching hardcore porn but the fact remains that most will have seen/heard/read about that stuff at some point).
What they need to have emphasized is the importance of consent and respect, how what they might have seen in porn has little basis in how a mutually respectful relationship- or even one off sexual experience- has little grounding in reality. Give them the facts about STIs and contraception. Let them know it'ss important whether they're in a heterosexual or homosexual relationship. Tell them that sex is not the be all and end all and that they aren't abnormal if they don't want to have it yet, or at all.

@SophocIestheFox

Wave, you sick puppy 😮

Also noting that diodes are capable of being turned either on or off. Very binary innit.

So many 🚩 🚩here.

All I've ever supported is factual safety information being given to young people on common non heterosexual/procreative sexual practices.

Not quite.

You downplayed the risk of one type of sex that is not something few females find pleasurable, let alone a teenage girl with;

Those things are exceedingly rare and all human sexual activity carries a degree of risk of both injury and disease’

Then followed up with

If the message given out to young people is that anal sex is highly dangerous, no woman would ever want to do it and its likely to cause all manner of injuries, but it's okay for the gays then that is likely to make young gay men feel stigmatised and also its just not true.?

Then followed up with

What about that statement is untrue?