Gay men's magazine bullied into grovelling

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twitter.com/BoyzMagazine/status/1332052779871965186

Looks like they're gunning for gay men now. Anything other than complete agreement is no good.

Readers here will be used to this sort of insanity:
twitter.com/robholley/status/1332054419337334789
I wonder if it will wake up those who have not seen it before?

Eye opening thread.

So that's it? Sex is when a penis is inserted in a vagina, this must be consensual and can cause pregnancy and disease. Here ends your sex education syllabus.

If this is taught alongside an appreciation that some people are same-sex attracted and love, meaningful relationships, self-reflection, boundaries, education about grooming, the age of consent, harms of porn and safe sex then, call me minimalist, but yes that's the nuts and bolts of SRE for children under the age of consent.

You're the one who keeps talking about fisting. I was talking about very common ways LGB people have sex, anal sex being one, and use of toys being another. These are not fetishes.

I asked earlier up thread, have the people who are saying LGB Alliance actually looked at the resources they are objecting to.

Because ‘fisting’ Is amongst some of the resources being objected to!!!! It is the lack of safeguarding that allowed resources and tools that are frankly not age appropriate and in class exercises that are entirely appropriate to be added to some schools curriculum.

But you sound like you have seen the resources and toolkits and are quite comfortable with it.

@jj1968

I think most on here are absolutely fine with kids being taught how gay people have sex too. What’s not fine is the tone taken by those who want to push various fetishes on kids or potentially dangerous practices (eg fisting) and trying to dress it up as being progressive and that any dissent is due to homophobia.

You're the one who keeps talking about fisting. I was talking about very common ways LGB people have sex, anal sex being one, and use of toys being another. These are not fetishes.

You posted at 12.39 today: “I think young people should be taught about all kinds of LGBT sex, including how to hygienically use straps ons etc”

You are advocating that female minors should be shown by adult teachers the care and maintenance of niche sex toys.

We may move in very different circles, but I can assure you if I told any friend or acquaintance of mine that their children were attending such lessons in school, the answer would be somewhere between “wtf?” and “I’m calling the police”.

Sorry, that should be

have the people who are saying LGB Alliance are against LGBT sex education actually looked at the resources they are objecting to.

And teacher training should be focused on safeguarding - identifying children who may have or may be being abused, those caught up in grooming, those who have been exposed to dangerous untruths about sex particularly the rights of men and the lack of rights of women and providing clear information.

Not being able to offer a master class in fetishes, sex toys and sexual postions.

Not being able to offer a master class in fetishes, sex toys and sexual postions.

Or a wonderful sex dice game as discussion openers.... but obviously those posters who are saying LGB Alliance is against LGBT sex education must think that this is appropriate for 13 + year olds sitting in groups and ‘playing’...

Damn.

that are entirely appropriate is that are entirely inappropriate* of course.

@7Days

Eye opening thread.

It certainly is. I don't know about anyone else but I'm still processing the words, 'Jess Bradley, children's author'.

@Impatiens

*As in, PIV. You get told what goes where and what happens. You don't get told any gay equivalent (for want of a better phrase!) eg anal and on this thread it's a fetish or something not to be spoken about.*

Because PIV relates to pregnancy and trying to reduce unwanted pregnancies, as well as the biology of conception.

So you don't think young LGB people should be taught about the risks of infection and STDs from LGB sex?

'Jess Bradley, children's author'.

I always thought there were two Jess Bradleys. Please someone tell me there are two Jess Bradleys.

@Floisme as in Jess Bradley of flashing fame? Great.

Fisting.

Sorry, I'm reading the thread backwards, but I wanted to note, for anyone casually lurking, that fisting is a potentially enormously dangerous practise. I would advise GREAT caution if even considering it, the risk of prolapse etc is high.

I would google for citations, info and references, but I don't have the strength of mind to do so right now.

You are advocating that female minors should be shown by adult teachers the care and maintenance of niche sex toys.

I think it might be useful telling young LGB people that sharing toys can lead to chlamydia and other STDs yes.

According to google there is a children's author called that?
Confused now, is there two different ones or what

This is gaslighting.

There is not a single poster on this board who does not believe that STDs are part of sex education. Going out in a limb here, I would argue that everyone also agrees that it should be covered that STDs also are spread via oral and anal sex.

Stop pushing sex toys for children as a part of inclusiveness.

I haven’t seen a backpedal like this since...oh, I know! the backpedal from Boyz magazine that used to be the original topic of this thread.

There is not a single poster on this board who does not believe that STDs are part of sex education

Nobody's said otherwise - just some seem to be saying that it's only acceptable to talk about STDs if it's coming from a heterosexual point of view.
It's not gaslighting to point that out.

These recent threads have really highlighted to me that some posters really have no true care for children and teens. Especially girls.

No actual care for females.

Jesus, the state of this.

Blindly defending some seriously concerning shit because of hatred towards LGBA. It's not a good look, that one would rather defend children being groomed in schools than admit they may be wrong on this one...

And while many LGBT couples use toys, so do straight couples. But equally, gay couples can and do have sex without them. It’s not necessarily a fetish to use toys but it’s also not something that needs to be taught in school. You can normalise same sex relationship without talking about toys

true

I like when people disagree with my posts, quotes half of it and then tell me that I am wrong. Especially if they leave out the sentence which went directly against their point.

@CoffeeTeaChocolate

This is gaslighting.

There is not a single poster on this board who does not believe that STDs are part of sex education. Going out in a limb here, I would argue that everyone also agrees that it should be covered that STDs also are spread via oral and anal sex.

Stop pushing sex toys for children as a part of inclusiveness.

And while many LGBT couples use toys, so do straight couples. But equally, gay couples can and do have sex without them. It’s not necessarily a fetish to use toys but it’s also not something that needs to be taught in school. You can normalise same sex relationship without talking about toys.

So you'd prefer kids to learn form youtube. From the far from woke Daily Mail:

"Teenagers are relying on YouTube stars to fill in the gaps left by sex education in schools, it has been revealed.

British pupils are turning to vloggers to learn about topics including sex toys, porn and female masturbation because they are not covered sufficiently by teachers, or are overlooked completely, according to sex education charity Brook.

A spokeswoman for the charity said some young people feel like they are being 'left in the dark' and are 'turning to the internet to answer their complex questions'. "

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5491839/How-teenagers-turning-YouTube-learn-sex-education.html

So jj have you kept up with the resources that the LGB Alliance has been objecting to?

Which resources did you think they were wrong in asking to be dropped or changed?