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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mermaid's associate intersectional cis feminist She/Her

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FindTheTruth · 01/11/2020 13:14

Mermaid's associate accuses FPFW Nic Williams of "profiting from 'transphobia'". 1) Nic's worked for FREE for 3 years. 2) Mermaids received over £700K last year and the National Lottery gave them £500K. threadreaderapp.com/thread/1322817633784369154.html

Someone dug: "Good Luck, Nic. Thanks to mimmymum for yet further encouragement. She has been immense in this fight in peaking ordinary people".

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BettyDuKeiraBellisMyShero · 01/11/2020 14:41

Ha. Yes. If they want to find someone who is profiting from current day trans issues they need look no further than Mermaids ‘CEO’ Susie Green.

moptophairshop · 01/11/2020 15:18

Now I'm no legal genius but surely naming someone publicly in such a defamatory way that can easily be shown to be untrue is a classic case of libel. Luckily the thread reader above preserves the tweet even if the writer decides to delete it. Why on Earth should someone who has worked full time for no fee for 3 years have to tolerate such venom?

ArabellaScott · 01/11/2020 16:01

That certainly sounds libellous to me (IANAL). It's certainly screaming irony.

FloralBunting · 01/11/2020 16:02

Mimmy does love her shadow boxing.

Datun · 01/11/2020 16:11

That is simply defamatory. Nicola Williams has slogged her guts out, working for nothing, to address and answer a public consultation, disseminated by the government, for exactly that purpose.

What kind of desperate measure is it, to attempt to smear a woman for doing precisely what the government has asked women to do?

World rugby agrees, exactly, with the work that Nicola Williams has done, showing how unfair it is to let males compete against females.

The royal courts of justice, no less, were listening to the culmination of work by Nicola Williams last week. And it's not finished.

Pretending that Nicola Williams is obtaining money, in order to undermine the equality act, rather than to uphold it, is seriously out of line. I hope she sues.

SunsetScreech · 01/11/2020 17:10

Mimmymum is such a twit.

FindTheTruth · 01/11/2020 18:09

@SunsetScreech

Mimmymum is such a twit.
Indeed... look at the donation comments though!! 😂👏
Mermaid's associate intersectional cis feminist She/Her
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moptophairshop · 01/11/2020 19:50

Grin I had to go and look, the comments are fantastic! They include a couple who hadn't heard about the crowdfunder until they saw her comments - she's done so much to raise awareness!

SunsetScreech · 01/11/2020 20:00

@moptophairshop

Grin I had to go and look, the comments are fantastic! They include a couple who hadn't heard about the crowdfunder until they saw her comments - she's done so much to raise awareness!
Mimmymum always seems to do herself more harm than good.
NotBadConsidering · 01/11/2020 20:23

Waves to Helen 👋 who we know is a regular monitor. I imagine this isn’t the sort of thread that she’d be keen to screenshot this time 😆😆.

FloralBunting · 01/11/2020 20:39

Wonder which disobedient trans person she'll take to court next?

skandalous · 01/11/2020 22:27

Ah, I've donated to FPFW a few days back, will donate again in honour of Helen.

Siameasy · 01/11/2020 22:35

I didn’t know about this and would consider donating
Pot kettle when Mermaids profit off the idea of gender identity being a real thing when of course it’s an ideology with no basis in reality

FannyCann · 01/11/2020 22:58

Also for the benefit of anyone who was unaware, mimmymum/Helen Islan was responsible for the prosecution of trans sexual Miranda Yardkey for hate crime. The case was slung out of court with a side order of lashings of slurry for mimmymum.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/21/first-person-prosecuted-transgender-hate-crime-says-waste-police/

DerryWitch · 02/11/2020 11:24

Mermaids got £43k from Children in Need and will be getting £100k a year for the next five years from the National Lottery. Wonder what they will with that money? Promote the idea that children urgently need unregulated hormone-suppressing drugs just because they don't fit sex stereotypes? It's dangerous to children to have that group funded to go round promoting their message. Wish Fair Play For Women had a bit of that. It's shocking that Mermaids and others actively oppose proper research into the effects of different treatment regimes. Which genuine interest group has ever said, no, don't do research! It's so obvious isn't it when you watch the infamous Tedx talk - imagine the horror of having to admit to yourself that the lad would probably have grown out of it?

Datun · 02/11/2020 11:31

Mermaids got £43k from Children in Need and will be getting £100k a year for the next five years from the National Lottery. Wonder what they will with that money?

Bloody hell. That's a crazy amount.

How are they going to even promote what they have done up until now, without resorting to stereotypes or saying born in the wrong body?

Seriously, what on earth are they going to be teaching in schools now?

DerryWitch · 02/11/2020 11:31

Of course this isn't the first time Helen Islan has had a go at Nic Williams. She seems really bothered by what Nic says.

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 02/11/2020 11:38

@DerryWitch

Mermaids got £43k from Children in Need and will be getting £100k a year for the next five years from the National Lottery. Wonder what they will with that money? Promote the idea that children urgently need unregulated hormone-suppressing drugs just because they don't fit sex stereotypes? It's dangerous to children to have that group funded to go round promoting their message. Wish Fair Play For Women had a bit of that. It's shocking that Mermaids and others actively oppose proper research into the effects of different treatment regimes. Which genuine interest group has ever said, no, don't do research! It's so obvious isn't it when you watch the infamous Tedx talk - imagine the horror of having to admit to yourself that the lad would probably have grown out of it?
Agreed. MM in similar position to SG, I believe, hence how much she has invested in this. Having accepted medical advice that your child should be given these drugs, and seeing what they've gone through, of course you don't want to contemplate the possibility that it could all have been a mistake.
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Worrysaboutalot · 02/11/2020 11:51

Why should a pro woman rights group not pay for staff costs?

Mermaid and Stonewall pay staff costs, does that mean they don't really support trans people, as they pay staff?

Stupid lack of logic but what can we expect from an ideology that tells people they can actually change sex!

Coffeeoverload · 02/11/2020 12:30

Wow, thanks for this. Hadn't heard of the Fair Play for Women campaign, but have just donated and will continue to do so!
I actually had nightmares about all this last night.

greyinganddecaying · 02/11/2020 12:32

Got to agree with this:
"Agreed. MM in similar position to SG, I believe, hence how much she has invested in this. Having accepted medical advice that your child should be given these drugs, and seeing what they've gone through, of course you don't want to contemplate the possibility that it could all have been a mistake."

However MM is behaving like an arse & I hope Nic can take some kind of legal action against her for this.

As a pp pointed out, the comments on the fundraising page are gold - and it's reminded me to donate!

https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/fairplayforwomen?fbclid=IwAR0Ehz8AC9ou2g9ahVNMTEJd5Isoa2Clq8uq86ioFyqfZotVwjFIIf4aM1E

moptophairshop · 02/11/2020 12:57

Unbelievable! She's still going on about FPFW on her Twitter page now Angry Oh the irony of exuding so much hate by insisting that all these GC 'cults' are terrible and intolerant.
Thankfully it seems her messages have helped to shed more sunlight. It's interesting to note that many who learn about issues can easily see through the the constant accusations of transphobia and work out for themselves the actual truth. So yes, if you're monitoring as we know you love to do Helen, thanks for your sterling work!

FindTheTruth · 02/11/2020 13:40

Shout out

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Datun · 02/11/2020 14:01

@Worrysaboutalot

Why should a pro woman rights group not pay for staff costs?

Mermaid and Stonewall pay staff costs, does that mean they don't really support trans people, as they pay staff?

Stupid lack of logic but what can we expect from an ideology that tells people they can actually change sex!

Of all the stances to take, this one is just plain weird.

What possible justification can you have for saying that Mermaids and Stonewall need to pay staff, but no-one else can.

Maybe they just can't stand seeing all the support that Nic gets. Because whatever it is, saying we can get paid, but you can't, is just odd.

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