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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

They wants to be mummy

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InTheShadowOfTheMushroomCloud · 27/10/2020 09:53

Words fail me...

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Cocothefirst · 27/10/2020 09:58

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AlistairSim · 27/10/2020 10:00

Sam Smith seems very desperate to be in the news.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/10/2020 10:03

Surely they mean 'parent of unspecified gender'?Confused

Jiggeriepokerie · 27/10/2020 10:08

How can SS denounce sex/gender/whatever but then decide they want to be 'mummy'? Are they not a bit confused? Please someone tell me how this works because it makes no sense to me.

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stillsomewhatsheldonesque · 27/10/2020 10:14

I want to be a size 8.

The only thing me and them have got in common is that it ain’t ever going to happen.

As said, you can’t demand a them/they and then want to be something exclusively female.

gardenbird48 · 27/10/2020 10:14

I find the horrendous grammar that this generates very hard to read.

It sends my (quite strong) error radar into overdrive so I end up losing any actual points there may have been (the Pronouns are Rohypnol Effect to disguise the weakness of the argument?)

Has anybody seen how this pronoun usage works irl - esp they/them? I still can't work out how you politely use pronouns other than 'you' to someone's face or in their earshot. SS has apparently had to develop great patience to deal with the 'misgendering'.

Coffeeoverload · 27/10/2020 10:17

Biscuit Sam smith

Reading that it sounds like he was a bit fat, so decided he must be a woman because the ideal for men is not to be a bit fat. Did he see a Reubens painting and think look, it’s me?
Sounds like he’s unafraid of everything except reality

SkaraBrae · 27/10/2020 10:19

In the context of the sentence (watching them grow, being there every day) I assume they meant take the traditional role of the nurturing SAHM parent- usually the 'mummy'.
Ironically strongly reinforcing gender stereotypes they claim to have rejected.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/10/2020 10:22

Has anybody seen how this pronoun usage works irl - esp they/them? I still can't work out how you politely use pronouns other than 'you' to someone's face or in their earshot.

Using they/them for unspecified individuals of unknown sex is actually perfectly standard and has been in common usage for centuries. You can find examples in Shakespeare. You just use the words as normal eg 'they want'. Tbh I think it's so normal that we only notice it when a person of known sex makes a fuss about wanting to use it.

Wanting to use 'they' and then appropriating a role strongly associated with the opposite sex is rank hypocrisy. And that's before we get to how this ambition would be achieved - SS will doubtless have little trouble determining which type of human he would need to rent.

Pertella · 27/10/2020 10:22

@ErrolTheDragon

Surely they mean 'parent of unspecified gender'?Confused
Its 'non birthing parent of unspecified gender' if you please Hmm
NewlyGranny · 27/10/2020 10:23

It's really not kind of the media to make a big splash of these sort of meanderings.

But "...we're changing a language here," is chilling.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/10/2020 10:24

I see it's an article in The Independent. I'm not going to help them along by clicking on it, I'm afraid.

We've always had vacuous celebrities spouting nonsense getting written up in the papers or interviewed on TV. When did we start telling people they were bigots if they pointed out that what they say doesn't stand up to critical scrutiny and is anti-scientific?

Coffeeoverload · 27/10/2020 10:25

@ErrolTheDragon

Has anybody seen how this pronoun usage works irl - esp they/them? I still can't work out how you politely use pronouns other than 'you' to someone's face or in their earshot.

Using they/them for unspecified individuals of unknown sex is actually perfectly standard and has been in common usage for centuries. You can find examples in Shakespeare. You just use the words as normal eg 'they want'. Tbh I think it's so normal that we only notice it when a person of known sex makes a fuss about wanting to use it.

Wanting to use 'they' and then appropriating a role strongly associated with the opposite sex is rank hypocrisy. And that's before we get to how this ambition would be achieved - SS will doubtless have little trouble determining which type of human he would need to rent.

Yes, he’ll need a ‘cervix haver’, natch. Aka handmaiden
slipperywhensparticus · 27/10/2020 10:25

Has anyone got a screenshot? My Facebook is reading this as unavailable

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/10/2020 10:28

I will be interested to see this play out in public in all its glory. I hope people squirm.

LunaNorth · 27/10/2020 10:32

Hmm.

Parenting requires a certain degree of selflessness and centring of someone else.

I think Sam Smith might find that a bit of a challenge, big navel-gazer that he is.

Sorry, that they is.

(If he does go ahead with this, I hope he gets someone else to help with their offspring’s English grammar homework).

womanaf · 27/10/2020 10:32

Presumably they’s intending to hire a uterusman to create the baby they is going to mummy?

TwentyViginti · 27/10/2020 10:44

uterusman

Grin
stillsomewhatsheldonesque · 27/10/2020 10:55

Handmaiden. How would that go?
Under their eye?

Toseland · 27/10/2020 11:01

Sam Smith has a dodgy partner feeding all kinds of nonsense into Sam Smith’s ear. Isn’t wanting to be a Mummy appropriation? Why isn’t it frowned upon then?

MrsWooster · 27/10/2020 11:03

@SkaraBrae

In the context of the sentence (watching them grow, being there every day) I assume they meant take the traditional role of the nurturing SAHM parent- usually the 'mummy'. Ironically strongly reinforcing gender stereotypes they claim to have rejected.
This. I wanted to say exactly this but didn’t phrase it as elegantly.
CorvusPurpureus · 27/10/2020 11:04

Well, unless they are planning to have their brain pulled out through their nose, before being pickled in natron & bandages & bricked up in a pyramid for eternity, I can't see how that's going to work for them.

NotBadConsidering · 27/10/2020 11:14

A whole thread on this person was removed because even though this person is frequently presenting themselves in the news in interviews, apparently it can’t be discussed here Hmm.

FairFridaythe13th · 27/10/2020 11:20

I think someone’s family need to step on now. This is getting quite... sad.

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