They wants to be mummy

[InTheShadowOfTheMushroomCloud]

Words fail me...

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Someone before told me they (they the person, not they the Sam Smith) were a gay enby, I just don’t get how that works, surely you must be either a male-loving enby if you’re male or a female-loving enby if you’re female. Anyway let’s hope Sam Smith finds one of those boyfriends with a uterus to achieve their plan (that’s the sam Smith their, not the couple their). Maybe it’s a plan to help people with their/there/they’re. People also don’t know when to use first person pronouns properly, now everything’s going to be even more complicated!

@PotholeParadies

gardenbird48

No, your brain isn't fried. Third-person pronouns are used to speak about someone. They do come a little bit into play during group conversation, like so.

Robin: [something astute]
David: [something stupid]
Mary: Can we go back to what Robin was saying? She seems like she had a really good point there and I'd like to hear more from her.

But I think that various people have adopted pronouns as a rallying cry, who never much grasped what the pronoun issue was about.

You're not supposed to be addressing people by their 3rd person pronouns! In a one-to-one situation, you shouldn't require them, and if you do, that's rude.

Thanks Pothole and Insurance that makes sense. I’m so glad I’m not working in an office environment any more - I think I would have struggled to focus on my input sensibly (generally quite deep technical stuff, and my short term memory in conversations is rubbish) while remembering to refer to Amy as anything other than ‘she’, however polite I wanted to be to Amy.

I really struggled with not using ‘he’ in my previous post re the Sam - it is just such a natural linguistic thing to do that I have been doing for nearly half a century.

I think in the modern office it's going to play out that you can either watch pronouns all the time or you can get the work done but mostly not both. Which leaves fewer people doing more actual work. Given that the 80:20 rule already applies in most workplaces, some folk are clearly going to be worked to death!

If you're non-binary, what are you balancing the gay against, actually? 🤔

If you're non-binary, what are you balancing the gay against, actually?

I think you are thinking of bisexual. Non-binary means you identify as a gestalt entity of multiple people of both sexes. So the Sams Smith feel they are both men and women at once. I think they are only attracted to fellas, so are presumably both gay and straight depending on how girly they are feeling right now and what opportunities to be offended are available to each sex. It's schrodingers narcisist.

Think of it like that mate who is always having really big dramatic rows with her dickhead boyfriend, but both of them live in the same body.

Non-binary means you identify as a gestalt entity of multiple people of both sexes.

I thought non-binary meant you thought you were neither man nor woman, not both?

Oh I get it. If you want to term yourself a mother for biological reasons, that’s bigoted, but if you want to “identify” as a mother in a vague, stereotypical way, you’re progressive.

The identity has value but only if it’s taken up by someone that wouldn’t normally have it.

Chaka and Julia great posts, totally agree. Its why genderist politics feels so extreme and uncomfortable, it is not about tackling population-level injustice at all, it’s a self serving set of ideas about the absolute primacy of individual wishes above anyone else’s and everything else, including reality. Struggles of wider social inequality are erased or ignored unless they can be coopted to individual advantage.

mmm, i think it's possible they felt that it had been far too long since some one gave them any attention so it was time to say something daft to get in the newspapers. nice to see they has been met with the appropriate level of ridicule on this thread

oh yeah, and identifying out of being a camp gay man is the coward's way out

@raddledoldmisanthropist

If you're non-binary, what are you balancing the gay against, actually?

I think you are thinking of bisexual. Non-binary means you identify as a gestalt entity of multiple people of both sexes. So the Sams Smith feel they are both men and women at once. I think they are only attracted to fellas, so are presumably both gay and straight depending on how girly they are feeling right now and what opportunities to be offended are available to each sex. It's schrodingers narcisist.

Think of it like that mate who is always having really big dramatic rows with her dickhead boyfriend, but both of them live in the same body.

Love this...nailed it! :)

oh yeah, and identifying out of being a camp gay man is the coward's way out

Not even necessarily camp, though I understand your point.

Anytime I see this kind of thing—I’m a man but have stereotypical/culturally-ingrained “feminine” characteristics”—I’m reminded of this simple phrase from Magdalen Berns:

I paraphrase, possibly: “Why can’t you widen the bandwidth of what it is to be a MAN?”

Widening the bandwidth of what it is to be a woman

Why is it always, always women who have to budge over and let someone sit next to them?

It's schrodingers narcisist. 😂😂😂
Thank you Raddled

It's schrodingers narcisist. 😂😂😂Thank you Raddled

In fairness, I'm pretty sure someone else on here has used that line first.

@EyesOpening

Non-binary means you identify as a gestalt entity of multiple people of both sexes.

I thought non-binary meant you thought you were neither man nor woman, not both?

You can be neither, either or both. You can be a tea pot, a trouser press or a tree. You can be sand pit, an Xbox or a galaxy. You can be anything you want because you’re a mediocre celebrity and papers got clicks to get.

So let's get this straight:

Female who carries a human for months and gives birth to said human gets to be called a 'birthing parent'.

Bloke with chunky thighs who likes wearing eyeliner, and wants children, likely with the help of a 'birthing parent', gets to be called 'mummy'.

Right, got it. No misogyny here, nope, none at all......

"I'm definitely going to do that at some point, but I've still got more in me. I've still got ambition."

Interesting they view motherhood as at odds with ambition and having a career, isn't it?

Almost like motherhood is (to them) performative when in reality it's a part of real life for women who have children, many of whom miraculously manage to retain ambition and an identity that isn't purely defined by one label...

I read the title in Gollum's voice and I think it still works.

Or yoda?

@TweeBree

I read the title in Gollum's voice and I think it still works.

Mind you, the only precious in Sam Smith's life is Sam Smith- self.

They wants to be mummy they do.

Mind you, the only precious in Sam Smith's life is Sam Smith- self.

I feel like the child is secondary to the act of being ‘Mummy’ to be honest. Get a dog.

No don’t get a dog. They don’t deserve that either.

Until they sort themselves out they don’t deserve to be responsible for anything or anyone else.

Maybe one of those realistic dolls. They can dress it up depending on what gender it is today.
He’s such an unpleasant narcissist. He needs to fall into obscurity.

Soz THEY

@PickleC

So what have we learnt so far. Mummy's have fat thighs, no ambition, dance like Sam Smith and interests include watching children grow and being all 'nuturey'. Ah nice to be schooled in the ways of women once more

Well said @PickleC