*TW* Pedophile found guilty of raping 5 year old given a SUSPENDED SENTENCE

[SebastianTheCrab]

How? How??

If anyone knows how I can donate to the mum's bid to challenge his sentence in the High Court please tell me.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8843789/Mother-devastated-paedophile-walked-free-court-raping-five-year-old-daughter.html

Thank you for highlighting this. I am sickened

What the fuck is wrong with the world, you can go to prison for council tax arrears but are allowed to walk free after being convicted of raping a small child.

I hope the bastard drops dead.

Assuming this crime happened when he was an adult and he has full mental capacity, this sentence is very strange.

I suspect that this is a crime he committed when he himself was a child (he is now only 21) and / or he does not have full mental capacity.

@GrumpyHoonMain

Very unlikely. It would have to have been... 8/10 years ago or something, so the girl could be maybe 12/15ish or something now.

The comments from the mum dont track with that. Mum said the it has been hell, but all the support workers involved have bee fantastic. She also said the girl is now wetting the bed, and talked about her taking the stand and being so proud of it. It doesnt sound like something that happened to a young adult when they were a child and is only coming out now.

@GrumpyHoonMain

I imagine it was for a historic rape he did as a child himself. I can’t see any self-respecting judge dish this out otherwise.

The report doesn't read that way - the mother describes her DD in the present tense 'She's one of the bravest little girls I've ever met. '.

@Lockheart

It seems pretty clear that the little girl is still a little girl, not a young adukt discussing what happened to her as a child. It isnt historic. He was an adult when he did it.

He may have diminished capacity but shoddy journalism means we dont know.

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[quote WhereverIGoddamnLike]@GrumpyHoonMain

Very unlikely. It would have to have been... 8/10 years ago or something, so the girl could be maybe 12/15ish or something now.

The comments from the mum dont track with that. Mum said the it has been hell, but all the support workers involved have bee fantastic. She also said the girl is now wetting the bed, and talked about her taking the stand and being so proud of it. It doesnt sound like something that happened to a young adult when they were a child and is only coming out now.[/quote]
I don’t really trust the DM with their reporting really. Wetting the bed can be normal even years after rape and sexual assault - a girl raped that young could have injuries consistant with child birth.

@equuscaballus

I have commuted on the train in the same carriage with this man several times. Mentally he does not have full capacity.

He takes his toys with him to play on the train and talks to himself.

Not sure why this isn't in the media.

@equuscaballus: thanks for bringing up this point, also raised by @HeronLanyon

There is clearly more to this story, it’s covered by Daily Mail FFS

Awful for child victim, but ‘judge is a paedo lover’ etc is a ridiculous stance : something clearly behind this re defendant too

And before any idiot claims I’m defending child rapists: far from it, was sexually assaulted as a child myself (not raped I’m thankful), it was taken very seriously indeed and I’m fully aware of damage to my whole family

@GrumpyHoonMain

The mum still calls her a little girl. I'm willing to bet my house that this isnt historic.

@Aridane

Oh crap - his picture and full address has been published by news outlets. Cue vigilante ‘justice’

I think I would find it hard to care if the girl's family or community took the matter into their own hands. I don't think it's right, but nothing about this situation is right.

I've written to the AGO. Like many others, I did the same when the Natalie Connolly sentence was handed down. They didn't care. I am struggling with this quite a lot. That poor girl.

@KnightsofColumbusThatHurt

The paedophile, who was found guilty of raping a child under 13 at Worcester Crown Court on October 1, was sentenced to a three-year community order and 35 days' rehabilitation requirement.

He was also fined £200 and ordered to pay £2,500 to the victim as well as being put on the Sexual Offenders' Register for five years.

Whaaaaaaaaattttttt?

I don't understand this? What is the justification for such a lenient sentence?

I have no words.

I shall find some pithy ones in the morning though!

Brave little girl to testify then for a judge to do this 😢

[quote WhereverIGoddamnLike]@Lockheart

It seems pretty clear that the little girl is still a little girl, not a young adukt discussing what happened to her as a child. It isnt historic. He was an adult when he did it.

He may have diminished capacity but shoddy journalism means we dont know.[/quote]
I don't think it's pretty clear. Lots of people still describe their children as little girls even when they're 10 or 12. The fact her mother described her as a brave little girl tells us nothing except that she's not an adult.

Don't forget that the court could have been sitting quite a while ago too and the sentence has only been passed now; the child could have been giving evidence years ago. Budget cuts (and now Covid) mean our court system is struggling immensely at the moment; many people wait years for cases to be heard.

I am guessing - I do not claim to know since the date the crime was committed has not been released and I have not been able to find any sentencing remarks - but I think it's entirely possible this crime could have been committed 5 or 6 years ago, which would put the offender in the 14 - 16 age bracket.

It is one possible explanation for the light sentence.

I've sent an email saying I dont have all the facts but that seems out of line with sentencing guidelines and asking for it to be referred. Even if he was in the 14-18 age bracket this is not a sentence that protects the public.

I've written to request an appeal.

This is absolutely horrific.

He has basically paid her £2.5k and then walked free.

It's legalised child prostitution.

It's disgusting.

A PP on a previous page said they know of this person and he lacks capacity, he talks to himself and takes children's toys on public transport.

I may be judged for this but personally I couldn't give a toss whether he has learning difficulties, he needs to be locked away even if that means a secure hospital.

I have a child with a disability and I would expect nothing less than incarceration if he ever (god forbid) did something like this when he grows up.

If he knows about sex and how to do it then he's not completely docile is he.

Outrageous.

A PP on a previous page said they know of this person and he lacks capacity, he talks to himself and takes children's toys on public transport.

How does a 'rehabilitation requirement" work in the case of someone with SENs? Is it tailored to their ability?

If his learning abilities are such a mitigating factor, then he shouldn’t be walking the streets. He needs to be under lock and key, 24 7 , as he can’t be trusted around children.

Will certainly write a letter with all the relevant details

Incredible

If he was lacking capacity surely he wouldn't have stood trial. As it is he didn't plead guilty meaning he did not accept responsibility for what he's done. This alone would indicate a more severe sentence. The fact that given he hasn't accepted guilt how can 5 years on sex offenders register be appropriate, what will change in that time if he has learning difficulties and incapable of understanding the seriousness of what he's done.

There's nothing there about him being underage when he committed the crime. He was charged and convicted as an adult and his picture is in the paper. He would be anonymous had he been underage at the time.

This sentence needs to be investigated.

Unless there's extenuating circumstances not detailed in the article - such as learning difficulties or a brain tumour - the judge needs to be struck off. People go to prison for minor crimes, raping a five year old is very serious.

@Handsoffisback

He wasn’t underage. This was recent. The girl was/is still a small child.

Where have you read that? There is very little being reported that I can see.

What is the justification for him walking free?? This absolutely abhorrent.. There's no words.

@ihaveanidea33

What is the justification for him walking free?? This absolutely abhorrent.. There's no words.

We don't know. Very little is being reported at present.