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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Brighton TRAs bullying female small business owner

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SapphosRock · 15/10/2020 15:02

Urgh. This is happening in my home town and it’s shit.

Happy Maki is a small, vegan cafe and takeaway. It’s a very ethical business. All about sustainability and green energy. They plant a tree and feed a child for each wrap made. It’s a gift economy and the food is free with a suggested donation. All very hippy. You get the idea.

A FTM trans person approached the female owner of Happy Maki and asked for support in fundraising for their top surgery. I believe they wanted a poster in the window asking for money. The owner refused. When pressed the owner said it was against her religious beliefs - she is a follower of the Divine Truth which admittedly sounds a bit ‘out there’ but not entirely unexpected given the nature of her business.

Anyway the TRAs have really gone to town and are posting in every Brighton based Facebook group, Instagram and Twitter accusing the owner of Transphobia and calling for her to apologise:

twitter.com/makiunhappy/status/1314261939833446400?s=21

They seem to be getting a lot of support and gaining a lot of traction too with many saying they are now going to boycott the business.

I’m upset about this for a lot of reasons. Obviously the female owner being bullied and harassed in this way and them encouraging people to email her. The lovely takeaway losing business. It’s also pretty tone deaf to attack the hospitality sector in the midst of a global pandemic for not supporting one individual’s elective, life changing surgery.

Anyway, the reason I’m posting here is in solidarity with the owner Anna. And if any of you lovely lot are nearby then consider getting a Happy Maki takeaway. The food is delicious and I’m sure they could do with some support right now.

www.happymaki.co.uk

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PotholeParadies · 16/10/2020 01:08

We're all filthy capitalists, y'see?

Poshest job I've had is customer-facing retail, but... Grin I'd had nasty managers, and I've had awful colleagues. It's not as simple as bottom tier worker is always right. Grin

Kantastic · 16/10/2020 01:08

I'm interested in why JJ thinks we all have posh phones though...?!

He's a literal teenager and his inferior phone is one of the many crimes his mum has perpetrated against him, for which he holds all women responsible?

Or maybe he cannot pass up any opportunity to whine, play the victim and insinuate that women here are privileged, no matter how ridiculous it is?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/10/2020 01:08

Perhaps just said no without saying btw I think you're possessed by evil spirits.

That's her religious belief, and religious beliefs are also protected in the Equality Act and Human Rights Act.

Butterer · 16/10/2020 01:11

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NiceGerbil · 16/10/2020 01:11

Incessant whining seems to be a theme on this topic tbh.

Like I say. Gets on my tits.

Women and girls put up with all sorts of shit because, many reasons.

Someone says no I'm not putting your call for cash for plastic surgery up in the window and her small business needs gone.

You know who is transphobic? Lots of men. Lots of men who go to strip clubs, pay for sex, etc.

Why not tackle that?

jj1968 · 16/10/2020 01:15

@NiceGerbil

'Yeah I bet you've all got posher phones than me though'

????

Why do you bet that?

Cos you're always going on about how this forum is full of educated professionals and they usually have posher phones than me.
Butterer · 16/10/2020 01:16

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NiceGerbil · 16/10/2020 01:17

Me personally?

If not me personally, then who?

NiceGerbil · 16/10/2020 01:18

And what does it have to do with all the other people (women) on the thread?

You're not dealing in stereotypes, I hope?

PotholeParadies · 16/10/2020 01:19

Sexism, the burdens of unequal parenting (especially when we have to arrange childcare during a pandemic) and the general financial costs of actually having children may mean we're underemployed and don't have money to stretch to the latest iPhone. Wink

PhoebeSnow · 16/10/2020 01:19

It’s really interesting to see the comments on the bullies Twitter thread. I can’t see one comment supporting them so far, it’s not going the way they had hoped, which is brilliant to see.

NiceGerbil · 16/10/2020 01:20

It's a strange comment.

I think it was made because your phone isn't up to scrolling or something?

Tell me what to look for and I'm happy to have a search.

Butterer · 16/10/2020 01:21

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NiceGerbil · 16/10/2020 01:21

Lol butterer

Educate yourself indeed

Anyway I've offered to use the search thing on my phone to find the proof for whatever it was :)

Butterer · 16/10/2020 01:22

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Quaagars · 16/10/2020 01:22

Oh God, why the F are we fixating on what type of phone someone does or doesn't have if they have a different opinion.
I mean, FFS.
No wonder they felt the need to come back with Sorry I'm on my phone and it's difficult to scroll through and find out exactly what they claimed she said, I think if you click on the link in the first post it takes you to the worker's statement
I know from experience that one is utterly relentless.
It doesn't matter what you link to. what you say.
Might as well just be shouting into a void

NiceGerbil · 16/10/2020 01:23

And conversely that people who don't have formal qualifications etc can't have money/ nice phones.

Which is also bollocks.

jj1968 · 16/10/2020 01:23

@NiceGerbil

And what does it have to do with all the other people (women) on the thread?

You're not dealing in stereotypes, I hope?

Can I just end my participation in this diversion by pointing out it started because someone criticised me for saying that I found something difficult to do on my phone.

Anyway night.

Butterer · 16/10/2020 01:24

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Quaagars · 16/10/2020 01:24

@jj1968
Just so you know wasn't aimed at you

PotholeParadies · 16/10/2020 01:26

Gerbil go to the OP, the twitter link and it was the fourth screenshot.

I'd just like to take this moment that I know the person who wrote it is an insufferable prat, because they've done their 'FULL STATEMENT' in white text on black. It's an absolute horror to read.

that one is utterly relentless

Thank you! Smile

PotholeParadies · 16/10/2020 01:27

*take this moment to say that I know

NiceGerbil · 16/10/2020 01:28

The workers statement on Twitter you mean?

It was JJ who said everyone who disagrees with him is in possession of a fancy phone (lots of subtext- wealthy bored women- or something).

The woman has a religion I find rather bonkers.

But lots of mainstream religions are not accepting of anything apart from straight childbearing, and in addition think women are crap.

Given that. An awful lot of shops need to close.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/10/2020 01:30

I know from experience that one is utterly relentless.

I won't post all the things I know from experience about you, Quaggars dear. If you make a statement, be prepared to back it up. JJ didn't.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/10/2020 01:32

Because the comment about assuming everyone has expensive and better things is just childish and lazy?

Especially when you're trying to deflect from the fact that you don't know the exact wording you're objecting to and are basically just slandering someone.

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