Simulated pregnancy and induced lactation

[GingerAndTheBiscuits]

Should possibly come with all sorts of trigger/content warnings.

DH just sent me this:

twitter.com/godblesstoto/status/1311050509072113664?s=20

TW simulating pregnancy and birth (in a house where their STBEx-wife and children live), already “planning” that the baby will be stillborn, and then wondering aloud if someone will lend them a baby to breastfeed.

All in a group for mothers taking medication so they can produce milk for their babies. Given how poor breastfeeding support is for many mothers in all parts of the world I can’t work out whether I’m more offended, disgusted, or terrified that this person has centred themselves and has people cheering them on.

DH questioned why women were commenting in support - I said it was part of the socialisation to “be nice”. His response was that it’s not being nice, it’s dangerous. And he’s right, but why can so many women not see it? Does it go beyond socialisation? According to other posts in the thread women were removed from the group for saying the person’s post was offensive/triggering to those who had experienced the loss of a child.

I don’t even know why I’m posting it really, other than I was so agog and this is one of the few places open to comment on things since I abandoned twitter

[Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g]

I don't understand how we've got here either. Without any shadow of a doubt, just a few short years ago, even in California, a person behaving like this (female or male) would have been committed to an asylum and the authorities would have intervened to get minor children out of this obviously toxic environment. Now, however, this person can waddle into the workplace wearing what everybody knows is a prosthetic pregnancy bump, talk about going into labour and inducing lactation, explore how to donate the chemical-ridden milk to a baby milk bank, and everyone else is expected to nod and smile and #bekind and anyone who doesn't is a hateful bigot, even if they have actually experienced the things this person is playacting, and still bear the scars, physical and mental.

The world's turned upside down.

[anxietrist]

Sorry but no one is going to want that milk 🤢

[Whatwouldscullydo]

I don't understand how we've got here either

I know exactly how we have got here but ill probably be thrown off for saying.

Needless to say all could probably be avoided if the word no had been used a few times. And organisations didn't fall over themselves to preach or impose political or ideological ideas onto their customer/,follower base and trying to one up eacjotger until you end up at holding dog leashes with men in latex

[Winesalot]

So he was allowed to breastfeed and even admitted to being aroused by it? That's terrifying and very very sick. I hope someone is safeguarding the child.

I have come across two transwomen who have breast fed infants. And yes, one wrote an article about being aroused by it. And wondered why women didn’t tell them about the arousal part. I don’t know, the exhaustion, the feeling of being touched out and the mastitis, the leaks and such really did not lead to any arousal for me for the 8 months I did it. Ewww!!

[Melroses]

Oh dear.

[daisyjgrey]

Good lord men are horrendous narcissists even when they're women.

[nepeta]

@WeeBisom

A woman who had a stillbirth was removed from the group for saying that this was outrageously offensive. I know that women are socialised to be nice and helpful but do they seriously not see how messed up this is?

This just shows the worthiness ranking of humans. Being female means a lower rung on the value ladder.

[SingingSands]

The absolute horror. Who the fuck centres themselves so much that they think this is an acceptable way to behave in society?

Miscarriage is FUCKING HEARTBREAKING. You don't just lose a baby, you lose a future and you lose yourself. You fall to the deepest, darkest depths it is possible to fall before you begin to crawl back into the light.

And this specimen thinks it's ok to simulate that?!

I am astounded that this is being enabled by people - employers - community - society. No, I'm sickened. Absolutely sickened.

[Totickleamockingbird]

Let’s put him in a two-day long labour, complete with some mechanical way to loosen their pelvic floor muscles. Then let’s pretend that the baby was stuck so a c-section was necessary. Then give them epidural, cut open their belly and then stitch it all back together.
While we are at it, make them do the donkey, day-to-day chores for a foster family who is raising a very young baby. I am the first few feels will bring him to his senses.
This fucking world has gone Fucking nuts!! I am so aggrieved that this guys is making fun of the trauma I went through to have my children. How in the world is this not considered offensive and torturous for mothers who have traumatic birth especially.

[NothingTraLaLa]

Bloody hell. In the blog that person refers to themselves as their children's mother, and the actual mother as a "parent", like some sort of artificial-hormone-fuelled cuckoo.

[Mollscroll]

How, in the current climate, would employers deal with this though? In the UK at least all this would be protected.

[CuriousaboutSamphire]

Protected? How? I may have misunderstood...

[7Days]

Why on earth is everyone going along with the likes of this.

Why dont normal trans people set up.an organisation that condemns this sort of bullshit, while advocating for reality based rights.

They need to say Not in Our Name, and the test of us need to say, live happily how you like but reality exists.

[namechange9357]

I had a forceps delivery without an epidural, following 3 hours of pushing. I'd call it "warrior work" but of course it was actually the everyday action of a woman with a full term foetus in her uterus who knows it has got to come out somehow.


Happily DS was fine. I get on with life with my prolapse. Maybe that's the warrior work.

[MotherForkinShirtBalls]

@anxietrist

Sorry but no one is going to want that milk 🤢

I'd be worried the recipient might not even be told.

[HecatesHat]

@Totickleamockingbird

Let’s put him in a two-day long labour, complete with some mechanical way to loosen their pelvic floor muscles. Then let’s pretend that the baby was stuck so a c-section was necessary. Then give them epidural, cut open their belly and then stitch it all back together.
While we are at it, make them do the donkey, day-to-day chores for a foster family who is raising a very young baby. I am the first few feels will bring him to his senses.
This fucking world has gone Fucking nuts!! I am so aggrieved that this guys is making fun of the trauma I went through to have my children. How in the world is this not considered offensive and torturous for mothers who have traumatic birth especially.

Might want to throw in recurring mastitis, fevers and abscesses 🤷🏼‍♀️

[DrDavidBanner]

Not read the full thread yet but it made me think of this.

[DrDavidBanner]

@SingingSands

The absolute horror. Who the fuck centres themselves so much that they think this is an acceptable way to behave in society?

Miscarriage is FUCKING HEARTBREAKING. You don't just lose a baby, you lose a future and you lose yourself. You fall to the deepest, darkest depths it is possible to fall before you begin to crawl back into the light.

And this specimen thinks it's ok to simulate that?!

I am astounded that this is being enabled by people - employers - community - society. No, I'm sickened. Absolutely sickened.

I agree with you wholeheartedly, its fucking awful.

[ThousandsAreSailing]

I've come across women who are infertile who have bought those life like dolls and have them in a pram
It's very sad but, imo, highlights the difference. The women wanted a child to care for, love and bring up. This person had that experience. This person is about themselves not about caring for a child

[AuntyFungal]

How has this behaviour escaped investigation?

How has this behaviour not triggered a cascade of interventions by social services / child protection?

A TW so deeply immersed in their fantasy of pregnancy and stillbirth - and the DC knowing this & calling them ‘mum’.

How???

[MotherForkinShirtBalls]

[quote DrDavidBanner]Not read the full thread yet but it made me think of this.

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This insanity aside, every man who utters the toe curling "we're pregnant" line needs to watch that

[PenguindreamsofDraco]

@AuntyFungal

How has this behaviour escaped investigation?

How has this behaviour not triggered a cascade of interventions by social services / child protection?

A TW so deeply immersed in their fantasy of pregnancy and stillbirth - and the DC knowing this & calling them ‘mum’.

How???

California.

[Mollscroll]

Well I mean no law is being broken and it’s not misconduct. And in the UK they’d have a protected characteristic of gender reassignment - whatever that means. So although this is clearly horrific behaviour it’s hard for a employer to do anything about this. All the other employees have to tolerate all the red flags.

[Mollscroll]

Sorry that’s to curious