Redmayne Reverse Ferret

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Trending on twitter now. Apparently he's had a mysterious change of heart about burning the witch at about the same time as the DfE changed their guidelines for schools and the government kicked changes to the GRA into touch. Oh, and the JKR film franchise that pays his bills is revving up on the publicity circuit again.

Acting means pretending to be someone else. I don't agree that trans people have to play trans characters. Casting films should be down to whoever the film makers believe would be the best actor/most commercially successful choice. After that it's down to audiences to vote with their money!

...I do think it's disingenuous to make a statement that contributes to and encourages the cycle of abuse that you later condemn. And to do one in public but the other in private

Yes

But I saw a film where a woman played a man who did something very naughty - so a crazed (female) plastic surgeon got a hold of him and did cosmetic surgery to make the him body into a her body.

She did a pretty good job too (obligatory nude shots). It was a dire film...

Can I just say how appropriate the tread title is as Eddie Redmayne is very ferret like. I am a visual thinker so thinks has given a wonderful image in my head.

More like a stoat I always thought.

Didn’t Scarlett Johanssen get a wee bit cancelled because she accepted a part to play a trans woman?

I bet the script writers/ director / producers were delighted that they lost an A - lister but were allowed to replace her with one of the many very talented transwomen actresses that are box office gold.

He's as much a woman as any other male.

Well, all that will happen with this sort of piss and moan about casting actors who are not trans as trans characters, is that no one except a few niche low budget indie film makers will even bother telling stories involving trans people.

The excellent strategic thinking of the TRAs wins again.🙄

These men. I have this mental image of Redmayne, King and Radcliffe as toddlers clinging desperately to the railings of the playground of misogyny whilst their feminist mothers try to coax them away.

"But we WUV being mean to women! Can't we just stay ten more minutes? Pweeze?!!!"

@RevIMJolly

Didn’t Scarlett Johanssen get a wee bit cancelled because she accepted a part to play a trans woman?

I bet the script writers/ director / producers were delighted that they lost an A - lister but were allowed to replace her with one of the many very talented transwomen actresses that are box office gold.

Yup.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/rub-and-tug-trans-actor-instead-of-scarlett-johansson-2020-7%3famp

I thought she took to her heels and ran when they cast her in Ghost in the Machine (or was that someone else?)

Just wandered through twitter... oh dear it’s getting nasty for Ed. I (genuinely) hope he is robust enough to read these and understand (or has someone managing his social media for him). Either way - wow it’s an eye opener for the others isn’t it?

The political lobby are systematically training Hollywood and most of the rest of the arts not to touch the subject with a bargepole, as high emotion, high ideals and outrage exists there, without capacity for reason or reasonability, in everlasting search of something to explode all over. Several projects have been dropped like hot bricks when this became apparent. It's hard enough and expensive enough to get any film through to completion point without bankruptcy; without starting from known names in key roles who will guarantee box office draws, and freedom from lose cannons doing damage before the film is even being filmed, you really might as well not bother.

Dante "Tex" Gill, a trans man who in Pittsburgh during the 1970s became a notorious gangster thanks to a string of illicit massage parlors and dealing steroids.

But surely that’s stereotyping male bodied people who identify as trans, as bad people? Why is this different from a couple of lines about a man in women’s clothing, in JKR’s book?

Didn’t Scarlett Johanssen get a wee bit cancelled because she accepted a part to play a trans woman?

That was a "trans man" - or more accurately, a woman who dressed in men's clothing who has been retroactively transed.

@Kantastic

Didn’t Scarlett Johanssen get a wee bit cancelled because she accepted a part to play a trans woman?

That was a "trans man" - or more accurately, a woman who dressed in men's clothing who has been retroactively transed.

It’s all getting very confusing, but my question still stands about stereotyping people who identify as trans.

@MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously

Acting means pretending to be someone else. I don't agree that trans people have to play trans characters. Casting films should be down to whoever the film makers believe would be the best actor/most commercially successful choice. After that it's down to audiences to vote with their money!

That's just not in line with the id politics approach. To some extent you can get away with casting a gay actor as straight and maybe vice versa, and for some reason, you can reverse male and female roles - that's edgy. But other than that, you risk criticism if you stray across identity lines.

Halle Berry as well

www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2020-07-07/halle-berry-apologizes-and-steps-away-from-transgender-role-after-backlash

All that happens is these films aren't made.

So different when a gay or lesbian film is made. There's little of this

www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jul/10/the-old-guard-charlize-theron-gay-romance

Look at all the praise this show got with straight actors

To be honest why bother making trans films at all - not worth it

But that’s Charlize... she has, um.

His name is still trending with no sign of let up! I hope people are seeing this and seeing what it means, 100% capitulation, or else. I hope they're thinking bloody hell, if I put a single step out, am I next? They were praising him one day, rubbing GC feminists noses in his statement, and see how quick they turn.

Most recent tweet was someone saying Eddie could "suck their t*** ass". Lovely.

But it's more sunlight, show everyone what's just underneath that 'be kind' surface if you don't do what they say.

I'm not sure if he is just going to keep his head down till it blows over (it will eventually, they'll move on because they'll be a woman to target soon enough), or whether there will be a grovelling statement coming out. In which case he's learned nothing, as no apology is ever enough.

I've found this lovely bit of gaslighting.

"every time I see Eddie Redmayne's name, I think about the moment in Disclosure when Jen Richards talks about the link between cis men playing trans women in movies & violence against trans women in real life."

twitter.com/LetsTurnDayGlo/status/1310710235640758278?s=20

for some reason, you can reverse male and female roles - that's edgy.

It seems to be almost de rigeur in Shakespeare productions nowadays - before lockdown we used to see a lot of stage to screen performances, and the person introducing them always but always had some mention of 'gender' (said in a special breathy sort of voice like it was edgy). Of course, quite a lot of Shakespeare plays have it built in, at least women dressing as men, presumably because of having lads playing these parts. And some of the sex swaps do work well - either because it simply doesn't matter to the part and there's a great actor (eg recent Timon of Athens) or because it changes the dynamic and perhaps adds jollity (eg the midsummer nights dream with Gwendoline Christie, in which the swap is to have Oberon fall in love with Bottom. )

[quote SunsetBeetch]I've found this lovely bit of gaslighting.

"every time I see Eddie Redmayne's name, I think about the moment in Disclosure when Jen Richards talks about the link between cis men playing trans women in movies & violence against trans women in real life."

twitter.com/LetsTurnDayGlo/status/1310710235640758278?s=20[/quote]
That is actually incredibly sad. Men abuse transwomen because the are violent abusive homophobic thugs and because we live in a society where men are justified in using violence against their female partner if she disappoints him in some way. I do think that someone needs to create a freedom program for transwomen who date men. I have seen so much stuff where they feel the need to appease the man in some way and not putting the blame where he belongs.

Maybe men would feel better about their trans partner if Laverne Cox had got the part in the danish girl instead of Eddie Redmayne but that wouldn’t help the problem that they feel justified in the abuse in the first place.

There is a lot of fear of the people they want to live them which drives them to siding with the men’s rights activists who are not their friends.

There's something wrong with some of these twitter folks.

JKRowlingIsMyQueen wrote - "His performance in The Danish Girl was a stereotyped sexist drivel, he's lucky the film didn't came out now. His whole way of expressing the character is now a "woman" was to blink seductively and make gentle, feminine movements with his hands."

You are implying that his portrayal of a transgender person (Lili Elbe) was inaccurate. Where is your evidence that Elbe did not do the things portrayed by Redmayne?