Redmayne Reverse Ferret

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Trending on twitter now. Apparently he's had a mysterious change of heart about burning the witch at about the same time as the DfE changed their guidelines for schools and the government kicked changes to the GRA into touch. Oh, and the JKR film franchise that pays his bills is revving up on the publicity circuit again.

He's making the Fantastic Beasts film - he knows (has been advised) this issue is going to come up again in a 'Eddie you're supposed to be an ally, how can you take part in that bigot's film?' so he had to take a be kind to everyone position.

That, plus his new film, The Trial of the Chicago 7, is out soon and there's awards buzz for it and the principal actors, so continuing to denounce a very beloved and powerful person in the world of entertainment wouldn't have been helpful for his latest Oscar campaign.

He is getting a load of abuse on Twitter, but as ever, it seems to be from a relatively small amount of people.
And it is moronic.

Maybe he will realise that nothing but capitulation will be enough.

I think he was a cowardly little shit. And not a great advertisement for an Elton education; not a lot of critical thought going on.

However, I am glad that he has said the little he has. He can change his mind.

In another point, I keep getting the Starbucks Mermaids ads on this thread. They are fooling no one, but thanks for supporting the feminist boards chaps.

I used to think he is grossly overrated and is a mediocre actor even in the best roles that can make or break careers. Now I think he is a class A twat who only follows what he is told and has probably no mind of his own. He is only after money. No principles.

Least he didn't double down like Radcliffe has

Did he spell out which of JKRs views he didn't agree with?

Of course it's good for as many people as possible to deplore the abuse she got, whether they agree with her or not. That's just basic human decency - he (and the other HP actors) should have done that clearly when they made their original comments on the matter.

While I think he is a craven coward, no one should face that level of abuse. Perhaps now he will see what GC women have to put up with for stating biological facts and be more sympathetic.

This bit is weird:

Redmayne played transgender painter Lili Elbe in the movie The Danish Girl, even though he is neither a woman nor a transgender person.

They seem to be saying that the part ought to have gone to a trans actor (obvs!) or a woman (not so obvs?)...

Have they got their knickers in a twist or is it me?

Lolz

Didn’t he also say at the time that she should be removed from the Fantastic Beast project? Perhaps he’s realised via a bollocking from the film company which one of them is indispensable.

“As Lili, he performs womanhood by way of stereotype.”

Any performance of womanhood is a stereotype. It's kinda what Judith Butler* actually argues ...

*I have read her books. Unlike most millennials who spout TRA views

He previously said: "‘Trans women are women, trans men are men and non-binary identities are valid. I would never want to speak on behalf of the community but I do know that my dear transgender friends and colleagues are tired of this constant questioning of their identities, which all too often results in violence and abuse.

‘They simply want to live their lives peacefully, and it’s time to let them do so.’"

I would go out on a limb and say that the trans people Eddie (and other celebs) knows are nothing like the ones who keep popping up on social media and making the news about their violent outbursts and disgusting behaviour. And while I would be the first to acknowledge they don't represent the transgender community, we see very little from that side denouncing these examples. There are quite a lot of intelligent and sensible voices out there but they are too often shouted over by the Morgane Ogers, "It's MA'AM!!", and JYs (now Simpson) types who seem happy to trample over women's rights.

So Eddie is partially right and I agree that many of them just want to get on and live their life peacefully, but there seems to be very little acknowledgement about the gaslighting, and I think it is completely reasonable to question the motives of the ones who seem keen to abuse and erase the language and experience of women.

I also think it's important to cut people a little slack if they've seen the light. I know a lot of women who started off this journey being kind until they realized that kindness was a one-way street where TRAs are concerned.

@BewaretheIckabog

I can’t see anything saying he supports her views or has changed his mind just that he thinks the abuse and vitriol JK is receiving is wrong.

Apparently saying that makes him a transphobe according to Twitter but can’t see where he’s said anything remotely GC - am I missing something?

This. I've read all the links and ER has not said one iota of a GC comment. It seems he still thinks his Trans friends are the most oppressed, most disadvantaged, people in the world. Now, I would normally suggest this implies a level of ignorance of the state of play of the real world, but since ER went to Eton with Prince William, perhaps the only level of disadvantage or oppression in the world that he has ever seen in real life, is that of his Trans friends.

I mean, he probably never had a female friend in Ireland who had to travel to England for an abortion; he probably never had a female friend in India who was forced into marriage; he probably never had a female friend in China who had to abort her female foetus; he probably never had a friend who was trafficked into prostitution........so yes, I can believe that Eddie has no knowledge and was thus being true to himself, as opposed to believing that Eddie is a misogynist who ignores the plight of the real oppressed the world over.

@JellyFishSquish

Eddie Redmayne joins Daniel Radcliffe in opposing JK Rowling's trans comments June headline

Eddie Redmayne stands up for J.K. Rowling against internet “vitriol” September 28th headline.

Make your fucking reverse ferreting mind up Eddie

He disagrees with what J K Rowling said. He also deplores the abuse she has received for saying it. I don't see why this is a reverse ferret.

I disagree with many people, but don't tend to wish death threats on them.

I don't think it's contradictory of him to disagree with her position and condemn the abuse she received. The timeline on it isn't clear to me so I'm not sure it was prompted by the government u-turn.

However, I do think it's disingenuous to make a statement that contributes to and encourages the cycle of abuse that you later condemn. And to do one in public but the other in private.

It's not a reverse ferret. It's not a change of mind. A man has simply reiterated his previous statements and neo-religious mantras of TWAW, but also wants to keep having a job associated with THE VERY BAD WOMAN and TRAs think he should be more overt in his condemnation.

They've been banging the 'shouldn't have played a TW' drum for a while, they're just amping it up because they like the power kick of trying to get someone to capitulate in the public eye, and Redmayne has new projects to promote.

And sure, that's horrible. But I will save my sad face emojis, ta. I tend to give a monkey's about the women involved in this, cos, you know, feminist.

@MeridaTheBold

I don't think it's contradictory of him to disagree with her position and condemn the abuse she received. The timeline on it isn't clear to me so I'm not sure it was prompted by the government u-turn.

However, I do think it's disingenuous to make a statement that contributes to and encourages the cycle of abuse that you later condemn. And to do one in public but the other in private.

Very much agree.

Bloody great post floral.

I think Redmayne sways with the wind. It didn't blow the way he expected, so he's trying to close back some credibility. Not least because his current work is JKR's intellectual property.
His, Emma Watson's and Daniel Radcliffe's behaviour towards JKR was utterly reprehensible and that shouldn't be forgotten. They were all perfectly happy to throw her under the bus, despite two of them owing her their careers. They didn't have to agree but I'm still stunned that Radcliffe had the unmitigated gall to apologise for her!
Rowling should have sacked Redmayne and recast. Although I imagine it's delightful watching him squirm on set since he didn't want to work with her again. Tough shit though when the film is literally her creation - we know who's most important here and it isn't him.

At least it would appear that PR companies are starting to realise which way the wind is blowing.

Maybe it's naive but I've been shocked by how cowardly various influential and rich celebs are. Like the Harry Potter kids not supporting Rowling. Even if they don't agree with her that level of abuse should sicken everyone - and inspire to speak up, not backstab.

Celebs like that have money and security - including security guards. So don't be a fucking coward then.

@TheChampagneGalop

Maybe it's naive but I've been shocked by how cowardly various influential and rich celebs are. Like the Harry Potter kids not supporting Rowling. Even if they don't agree with her that level of abuse should sicken everyone - and inspire to speak up, not backstab.

I agree. There are women in ordinary paid jobs that are risking them in order to protect women and children, which they could be bullied out of by the TRAs. These women risk losing everything and won’t have money in the bank to fall back on, yet these wealthy, protected and pampered stars are acting like a bunch of craven cowards.

The sound of publicists at work trying to dig their client out of a hole is almost musical.
Wish I had someone to protect people like me who are afraid to express their opinion in real life for fear of getting problems at work.

They seem to be saying that the part ought to have gone to a trans actor (obvs!) or a woman (not so obvs?)...

Yes, that really is what they mean. Because as we all know, it's impossible to tell the difference between a transwoman and a woman, whereas they are completely different from men. Yes, even before doing anything to change their appearance.

I suspect that in practice, any woman cast to pay a transwoman would get subjected to a barrage of death threats for saying or doing something "transphobic" or for some perceived insult in her public appearances or performance, sooner rather than later.

Errol - I’m Dorothy of course!

I think any woman cast to play a transwoman would be publicly vilified for appropriation. At which point the irony metre goes off the scale and explodes.