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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What's behind the Mermaids backpedal?

54 replies

QuimReaper · 25/09/2020 14:02

I've seen lots of allusions in Tweets on this to government contracts and implications that the volte face is financially motivated - are they only referring to the Self ID ruling (which seems rather tangential to the 'born in the wrong body' line)? Or is there a more tangible financial threat?

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 25/09/2020 14:04

The new DfE guidance
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4032584-Updated-relationships-sex-and-health-curriculum-guidance

QuimReaper · 25/09/2020 14:20

Oh fuck me @ChazsBrilliantAttitude, that guidance is an absolute slam dunk, I completely missed it! Thank you!

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BoreOfWhabylon · 25/09/2020 14:27

The wheels on the bus are falling off,
Falling off, falling off ...

testing987654321 · 25/09/2020 14:37

But they aren't back-pedalling, they are just saying what they always said. Or something.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 25/09/2020 14:41

Reverse ferreting worthy of KMcK

TBHno · 25/09/2020 14:57

Sadly, I'm assuming that something bad may have happened Sad

SerenityNowwwww · 25/09/2020 15:19

@testing987654321

But they aren't back-pedalling, they are just saying what they always said. Or something.
Or not (actually).
PenguindreamsofDraco · 25/09/2020 15:25

I assume you're looking for an answer more sophisticated than... money?

nevermorelenore · 25/09/2020 16:19

[quote ItsAllGoingToBeFine]www.attwatersjamesonhill.co.uk/medical-negligence/transgender-treatment/[/quote]
I suspect it's this rather than any government guidance.

ErrolTheDragon · 25/09/2020 16:34

@testing987654321

But they aren't back-pedalling, they are just saying what they always said. Or something.
They've always been at war with Eastasia.
QuimReaper · 25/09/2020 17:05

I assume you're looking for an answer more sophisticated than... money?

Yes, sort of - what financial source is specifically endangered by their ideology now being at odds with the DfE policy? Were they receiving significant funding for their school reeducation 'sensitivity training' courses or whatever they called them?

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Manderleyagain · 25/09/2020 17:06

We must remember not to dead-opinion mermaids. Mentioning their previous opinions completely invalidates their current opinion and is literal violence. They might have presented as a charity who thought playing with dollies makes you a girl, but they were always actually a charity that thinks children should play with any toys, just trapped in the body of a charity who thinks playing with dollies makes you a girl, or, er... not trapped in that body because that would be dead-opinioning them which would be literal violence.......

Packingsoapandwater · 25/09/2020 17:15

@Manderleyagain

We must remember not to dead-opinion mermaids. Mentioning their previous opinions completely invalidates their current opinion and is literal violence. They might have presented as a charity who thought playing with dollies makes you a girl, but they were always actually a charity that thinks children should play with any toys, just trapped in the body of a charity who thinks playing with dollies makes you a girl, or, er... not trapped in that body because that would be dead-opinioning them which would be literal violence.......
My name is Reverse-Ferret and I support this message.
Gurufloof · 25/09/2020 17:21

Manderleyagain

Grin Grin Grin

HotPatootiebootie · 25/09/2020 17:23

Mermaids back peddling? What's this about? I've been waiting for something from them after the gra shelving and d of e update

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 25/09/2020 17:23

@Manderleyagain

We must remember not to dead-opinion mermaids. Mentioning their previous opinions completely invalidates their current opinion and is literal violence. They might have presented as a charity who thought playing with dollies makes you a girl, but they were always actually a charity that thinks children should play with any toys, just trapped in the body of a charity who thinks playing with dollies makes you a girl, or, er... not trapped in that body because that would be dead-opinioning them which would be literal violence.......
I love this quote so, so much - you are inspired, @Manderleyagain!!
OneEpisode · 25/09/2020 17:26

In June 2019 this sort of firm, identifying as lawyers. were advertising for clients wanting to pursue Mermaids about the data breach. Did anything happen? It looks like a FOI was done and on 30 October 2019 the ICO’s investigation was ongoing.

invisibleoldwoman · 25/09/2020 17:33

Manderleyagain

Grin Grin Grin Grin

ROFLMAO

christinarossetti19 · 25/09/2020 17:54

@OneEpisode

In June 2019 this sort of firm, identifying as lawyers. were advertising for clients wanting to pursue Mermaids about the data breach. Did anything happen? It looks like a FOI was done and on 30 October 2019 the ICO’s investigation was ongoing.
I was thinking about the data breach recently - would also be interested if any action is being taken.
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 25/09/2020 18:25

ICO investigation still ongoing July 2020
www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/671919/response/1598534/attach/html/2/Information%20request%20response.pdf.html

SVHJess · 25/09/2020 18:32

Money.

QuimReaper · 25/09/2020 18:39

@Manderleyagain

We must remember not to dead-opinion mermaids. Mentioning their previous opinions completely invalidates their current opinion and is literal violence. They might have presented as a charity who thought playing with dollies makes you a girl, but they were always actually a charity that thinks children should play with any toys, just trapped in the body of a charity who thinks playing with dollies makes you a girl, or, er... not trapped in that body because that would be dead-opinioning them which would be literal violence.......
I actually adore you Grin Grin
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wellbehavedwomen · 25/09/2020 18:46

Because if they don't reverse ferret, they're banned from schools. So they need to be able to assure schools that they are wholly compliant with the guidance and always were - even though that guidance could not be more explicit.

Might also be hard for these orgs to train other public bodies, while banned from schools. Tricky, that, in terms of being seen as fit and proper people to tell police and civil servants what to think.