Nude Family swim at Stoke Waterworld

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Flagged up by Sammy Woodhouse on Twitter.
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Supported by who else but NSPCC.

Adults can buy a single ticket.

To Shut it down, Change petition here:
www.change.org/p/water-world-stop-nude-family-swim-session-for-adults-and-children-of-all-ages-at-water-world?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_24863394_en-GB%3A2&recruiter=1151217419&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=tap_basic_share

Attended by convicted paedophile
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/4047602.convicted-brierfield-paedophile-member-naturist-club/

Unbelievable.

handsoff - you've said everything I think and more, I applaud you for fighting for the protection of women and children.

I don’t know what other people have found but for me, when I’ve told people about abuse/bad treatment in childhood (other stuff, not the nudism thing), it’s much more common that they:
Carry on normally as if you didn’t say it
Consider you weird and avoid you
Minimise it or even tell you you must be making it up
Tell you it wasn’t actually wrong (ie gaslighting) some of this group probably have done the behaviour themselves
Tell you not to feel sorry for yourself, other people have it worse

It’s actually very rare to get the omg that’s awful, poor you reaction. The first time someone said that to me I cried.

Basically what I’m saying is this is to be expected and just focus on the people who genuinely get it

@DarkmilkAddict

I don’t know what other people have found but for me, when I’ve told people about abuse/bad treatment in childhood (other stuff, not the nudism thing), it’s much more common that they: Carry on normally as if you didn’t say it Consider you weird and avoid you Minimise it or even tell you you must be making it up Tell you it wasn’t actually wrong (ie gaslighting) some of this group probably have done the behaviour themselves Tell you not to feel sorry for yourself, other people have it worse

It’s actually very rare to get the omg that’s awful, poor you reaction. The first time someone said that to me I cried.

Basically what I’m saying is this is to be expected and just focus on the people who genuinely get it

Well said.

Thanks for explaining your experience darkmilkaddict and putting it into perspective here.

Yes - it's a safeguarding policy. It shows there's a risk which is acknowledged and guarded against.

I'm still waiting to hear how this risk which appears to be completely acknowledged, is then guarded against.

I've asked about DBS checks, safeguarding, gatekeeping.

I've asked how they stop convicted or in convicted paedophiles from showing up at events.

Unless I've missed it, there don't appear to have been any answers.

The event has been stopped

Will be for over 18s only in the future

www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/waterworld-bans-nude-family-swim-19010422.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Did anyone actually read why it's been stopped?

However, my staff have been subjected to unacceptable and unwarranted abuse from those protesting against the event that took place this weekend. This is something that I cannot allow to continue in the future.

Not because of problems with naturists, but because of thugs protesting.

Glad it's been stopped!

I think that nudity has different associations according to cultural and subcultural contexts

I do not necessarily believe that a naturist event is a front for anything sinister

However, I undertand that paedophiles and predators are drawn to such events.

I think it's entirely possible that well meaning, hippy types who genuinely love their children could put their children at serious risk of abuse via this kind of event.

I am very pleased to hear that this has been closed down. The issue of single people being able to attent was a great big red flag.

There is a significant liminal area of cults and naturism.

In my experience of naturism, which is limited, there are different "tribes", some are into health and exercise, some are very new age, some are swingers and some are sex cultists.

Naturism is of interest to entryist cults because naturists are from a broad spectum of society, a but like with gay "tribes", you get closeness between ordinary people and extremely privileged, influential people.

Many naturists may be lovely people who enjoy a bit of skinny dipping (I certainly do if I have privacy) but there is an overlapping category of quite dodgy "tribes", some of which consist mainly if very vulnerable people with ill defined personal boundaries and an overly trusting nature.

I don't think naturist places are suitable or safe for children, simply because some parents are too easily duped by charming predators.

This is great news, thanks for sharing xx

I too believe although have no evidence due to my age at the time but I have been thinking about arguments on here that are so similar to what I remember my parents coming out with. It is indeed cult like. I really hope that the law wakes up and gets the age limit raised so that children cannot be included.

I've just read through some, not all the posts of dark and bonkers

I need a rest as I am feeling furious on behalf of both of you

I am so sorry that you were put in such an abusive, cult like, situation.

The situations you describe are definitely very cult like in terms of toxic dynamics, denial, gaslighting, limited choices that can leave you feeling complicit in your own abuse ... I will write more when I have read more of the thread

You are not alone. I know this as I have spoken to other women who went through exactly the same thing as children.

It may be that some children within naturist families had happy childhoods and were protected from harm by vigilant parents, but just one child going through what you went through is one child too many.

It is my understanding that naturist environments attract perverts and predators and that they are no place for children.

I wish you all the best with your important petition and I hope that you both find a network of supportive women to help you process what happened and that you both gain some peace, validation and closure

That's good news.

There should not be any kind of legitimising of adults' preferences that ensure naked minors are around adult men taking off their clothes.

Stands to reason.

I don’t know what other people have found but for me, when I’ve told people about abuse/bad treatment in childhood (other stuff, not the nudism thing), it’s much more common that they:
Carry on normally as if you didn’t say it
Consider you weird and avoid you
Minimise it or even tell you you must be making it up
Tell you it wasn’t actually wrong (ie gaslighting) some of this group probably have done the behaviour themselves
Tell you not to feel sorry for yourself, other people have it worse

So sorry you've been through this

This response is so common to people who have been abused in cults that, while it used to distress me, I find I can now use it to my advantage

I reallty understand why you don't want posts or the thread deleted

Sometimes the best weapons at our disposal are the words of our oppressors

The denials and gaslighting are there for all to see, which is exactly where they should be