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Nude Family swim at Stoke Waterworld

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VortexofBloggery · 24/09/2020 12:03

Flagged up by Sammy Woodhouse on Twitter.
mobile.twitter.com/sammywoodhouse1/status/1308822025797013509

Supported by who else but NSPCC.

Adults can buy a single ticket.

To Shut it down, Change petition here:
www.change.org/p/water-world-stop-nude-family-swim-session-for-adults-and-children-of-all-ages-at-water-world?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_24863394_en-GB%3A2&recruiter=1151217419&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=tap_basic_share

Attended by convicted paedophile
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/4047602.convicted-brierfield-paedophile-member-naturist-club/

Unbelievable.

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DarkmilkAddict · 27/09/2020 16:16

I could see the enjoyment on their faces. There was nothing I could do to escape

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/09/2020 16:18
Thanks
testing987654321 · 27/09/2020 16:18

So pelleas, why are you here arguing for children being involved in naturist communities? Did you grow up going to them with your family?

Pelleas · 27/09/2020 16:21

@testing987654321

So pelleas, why are you here arguing for children being involved in naturist communities? Did you grow up going to them with your family?
Why don't you read the full thread, testing?

Yes, is the short answer.

DidoLamenting · 27/09/2020 16:21

@Pelleas

You didn't say that literally but your defence of parents' "right" to make their children be naked in public in front of strangers comes to the same thing.

You saying it 'comes to the same thing' isn't me saying 'exactly that' then, is it? 'It comes to the same thing' means you are choosing to wilfully misinterpret and twist my posts to suit your own agenda, presumably because you're unable to refute my actual, exact words. You're inventing things I haven't said to construct a straw man argument.

Oh for goodness sake- I credited you with enough intelligence to work out I wasn't saying you said that literally word for word. The sum of your argument however is exactly the same.
Pelleas · 27/09/2020 16:23

I credited you with enough intelligence not to use the word 'exactly' when that wasn't what you meant. Or are you one of those people who thinks 'literally' is an emphatic, not a descriptor?

LouMumsnet · 27/09/2020 16:24

Afternoon all. We've had a fair few reports about this thread and have had to delete several personal attacks. If this continues, we'll have to remove the thread entirely.

If anyone has concerns about other posters, please report their posts directly to us rather than tackling this on the thread, as it only serves to derail the discussion.

Thanks all.

DarkmilkAddict · 27/09/2020 16:40

LouMumsnet please, if you can, delete all the posts you need to but try to retain most of the information here. It relates to a very controversial situation involving children that that isn’t often discussed

DarkmilkAddict · 27/09/2020 16:41

There’s an interest group that would probably be very pleased if the whole thread was deleted

SterFran00 · 27/09/2020 16:43

@DarkmilkAddict

LouMumsnet please, if you can, delete all the posts you need to but try to retain most of the information here. It relates to a very controversial situation involving children that that isn’t often discussed
I agree with you, I was composing a similar reply
DarkmilkAddict · 27/09/2020 16:48

I really hope it stands. I’ve told people here things that I’ve been too ashamed to tell friends, counsellors and even my ex husband.

Plus there are all the eloquent explanations about children’s boundaries and ability to consent

Handsoffisback · 27/09/2020 16:48

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DidoLamenting · 27/09/2020 16:51

@Pelleas

I credited you with enough intelligence not to use the word 'exactly' when that wasn't what you meant. Or are you one of those people who thinks 'literally' is an emphatic, not a descriptor?
I am perfectly aware of what literally means. I genuinely did not think it was necessary to spell out that you literally did not say something but that your arguments lead to that conclusion. Clearly I was mistaken.
Handsoffisback · 27/09/2020 16:52

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DarkmilkAddict · 27/09/2020 16:53

Yes I’d be gutted if this was taken down

VortexofBloggery · 27/09/2020 16:54

Agreed.

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Deliriumoftheendless · 27/09/2020 16:54

@DarkmilkAddict

I really hope it stands. I’ve told people here things that I’ve been too ashamed to tell friends, counsellors and even my ex husband.

Plus there are all the eloquent explanations about children’s boundaries and ability to consent

Please don’t be ashamed, you have no reason to be at all.
Handsoffisback · 27/09/2020 16:54

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DidoLamenting · 27/09/2020 16:55

I credited you with enough intelligence not to use the word 'exactly' when that wasn't what you meant. Or are you one of those people who thinks 'literally' is an emphatic, not a descriptor?

You are confused about "literally" and "exactly". You did not literally say certain words; the conclusion of your argument however is exactly the same as if you had.

I'm not sure I can make this any clearer- still nitpicking on my comment is a useful distraction for you. It avoids any need for you to answer the question as to why children should be exposed naked to naked adult strangers.

DarkmilkAddict · 27/09/2020 16:57

Handsoff I can’t tell you how much your kind words mean to me Flowers

Handsoffisback · 27/09/2020 17:01

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LouMumsnet · 27/09/2020 17:16

Hello again.

We never delete threads lightly and have no desire to remove this one so long as posts, on the whole, stick within our Talk Guidelines.

Flowers
BatShite · 27/09/2020 17:28

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

I would be slightly more believing of the innocence of this, if it was only families swimming. As far as I can tell it is also open to men and women swimming without children which is disturbing. What non-dodgy reason could a man have to go to a naked family swim at a water park?
Agree with this. I see no reason at all to permit single swimmers, to a family event like this. I don't think there is an explanation on the planet that could convince me that that would be ok.