She’s not a mother - she’s non binary [eye roll]

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Sorry - ridiculous and sad.

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It's interesting really.

Paternity has been a preoccupation of men for an awfully long time and is a large part of the various ways that we have been controlled and oppressed all over the world for as long as anyone can remember.

In the UK an exception to the gra is around inheriting titles. It does not override male primogeniture.

The person who grows the baby and births it, and is the one who can breastfeed it, that role, that activity is under attack from multiple angles. Surrogacy with the woman who carries the baby as a vessel only, if she has no genetic link to the child she is seen as totally unlinked to it (a very male view). Here motherhood as a label to be rejected. I wonder if that's due to the stereotypes around mothers in society.

The thing about how women are responsible for all the ills in society is multiplied up for mothers.

Yet again the problem is probably with the stereotypes, and rather than try and change things so mothers aren't put in such tiny boxes, vilified in various parts of the press, held up to impossible standards, and taken a dim view of in many workplaces, the easy thing to do is just opt out.

The cool girl thing is a natural reaction to the position of women and girls in society.

I was one to a certain extent when I was young. And if course you can't see it yourself. That's the trick.

Utter nonsense innit

Agree with the pp who pointed out they’re not called, and are not, ‘mothers’ groups”. They’re almost always baby groups/playgroups and no one gives a shit If you’re not the mother. (Though you are btw, but anyway.)

It’s like that person with the cringe performance poetry about non-binary haircuts and not being able to go for haircut because hairdressers are all so exclusively masculine or feminine. Totally failing to accept that they are in fact not and you can easily find a unisex hairdresser who won’t give a crap what you identify as and will just give you the haircut you fancy. Amazing eh.

One of the many things that fucks me off about trans ideology but especially the NB wibble, is they way they push a totally untrue, twisted version of everyone else’s reality, where we’re all stuck in stereotyped gender divisions unless we’re of the extra special trans persuasion. You have to create a ridiculously over-Gendered world In order to declare you don’t fit it.

What a load of old shit

mother mother mother mother mother mother mother mother mother

Read it and weep you twat

@MrJollyLivesNextDoor

What a load of old shit

mother mother mother mother mother mother mother mother mother

Read it and weep you twat

There used to be dad's groups, before the financial crisis and all the funding went.

They got bacon sandwiches that annoyed a lot of women at the time!

The fact that most of those types of groups are predominantly female and men can feel uncomfortable is something that is changing I think. But they were never just for women at least in recent years.

I really think this is all about rejecting stereotypes/ a certain dominant way of doing things isn't it? With a good dose of, that's not for me I'm better than that.

Any groups I ever went to had it's share of SAHD's and nannies 🤷🏻‍♀️
Nobody gave a toss about your relationship to the baby, anymore than they cared about the fecking baby. Why should they?
If I'd encountered madam when I was struggling to stay awake after a sleepless night and just wanted a coffee when it was still hot; I'd have run fucking screaming from the building.
Who has time for self absorbed shite like that, especially in the early days?!

But people - including feminists, gay people and just plain old eccentric people - have been rejecting stereotypes for centuries. Why do you have to deny being a mother to reject a stereotype? I'm not one to bleat about being offended but that's actually bloody rude. I'm a female, woman and mother and I reject and break loads of feminine gender stereotypes, as do lots of women I know. It's suggesting that by declaring she's not a mother, she has some special ability to reject a stereotype that boring old "mothers" don't have.

Lone parent, home schooling during lockdown AND time to ponder her gender identity and write three autobiographies.

You can't knock her capacity to multi-task.

What a load of utter tosh. I hope her kids grow up as well adjusted as they can and that they get the fuck outta dodge and away from her self-absorbed, deluded and bizarre ass ASAP.

What a crock of attention seeking shit

Another thing I just thought.

There have been loads of threads on here over the years about women not liking just being referred to as 'mum' rather than their names when they are pregnant etc.

And how's mum feeling etc.

Women felt that with pregnancy birth etc their individual identity as a person with a name was subsumed into 'mum'

Women are always told this stuff is trivial. Most never complain out of Mumsnet.

Then we get this sort of thing and everyone says ok.

This is all about trying to escape the narrow box that girls, women etc are supposed to inhabit. The whole lot. For the women doing it.

Has anyone here read any of the autobiographies?

Would you recommend?

I think she was just using a turn of phrase not that she has actually written three autobiographies.

@MoseShrute

The comment is hilarious

Absolutely! Sadly suspended!

Can’t stop sniggering about being called boaby 🤣 boaby should move to Glasgow, that would be hilarious. Change of name to Fud maybe?

I do feel a bit sorry that Boby has such a dim view of women and motherhood. I think joining some baby groups would really help with the understanding that nobody finds it easy, and women really don’t tend to buy wholesale into the stereotype of mum. A lot of this does smack of some pretty severe social isolation.

I know @sophoclesthefox 😁 Unless it's a purposeful non gendered Boaby? But I am reading it in a River Shitty scripted accent!

What a self obsessed twat

It's a wonder that Boby doesn't have a vegan cat.

Does "parent" not suffice if one is uncomfortable with gender / sex references?

And I do get the bit about suddenly being pigeonholed by HCPs as "Mum" as if you cease to be an individual with a name and personality - but as I got older I realised that it's probably mainly because the poor buggers are dealing with multiple "Mums" and they have better things to do in the best interests of "baby" than remembering everyone's name..... which is why many of my shop customers are "Sweetie" and "darling" because if they have all told me their name my brain often draws a complete blank (and I'm theatrical and so is my shop so it's kind of part of the brand now...... should anyone complain, I will of course apologise, but it hasn't happened in 4 years and I haven't been cancelled yet. Maybe the clock is ticking yet.....)

"Call me Boby"
That's not going to go down well in Glasgow

I think she was just using a turn of phrase not that she has actually written three autobiographies.
Perhaps. But I can't find anything at all about her on Google. Surely anybody who has done enough to write three autobiographies - even just in her own mind - before the age of 27 should have a few google entries?

@GrumpyGran8

I think she was just using a turn of phrase not that she has actually written three autobiographies. Perhaps. But I can't find anything at all about her on Google. Surely anybody who has done enough to write three autobiographies - even just in her own mind - before the age of 27 should have a few google entries?

I think they'd be self-published.

She didn't say anyone would buy them just that she could write them.

I could write 5, one per decade. I've bet my life has been a fuck of a lot more exciting than hers yet still my autobiographies would only be read by masochistic insomniacs.

But presumably she changed her name just recently when she suddenly became aware that she wasn't a woman jumped on a passing bandwagon - so wouldn't be on Google under her new name.