Sanitary products for people who menstruate

[jellyandiscream]

Sorry for the daily fail link but has anyone seen this? Sanitary products for people who menstruate from Superdrug. What were they thinking?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8697841/Shoppers-ridicule-woke-Superdrug-launches-sanitary-products-people-menstruate.html

If anyone truly believes that the erasure of women is to be inclusive to TM and not to appease sick men who hate women, many of whom push this ideology, then I have swampland in Arizona to sell you

What's that aimed at? Being more inclusive for trans men who menstruate is just a cover for sicko women hating men who are out to erase us all? Oookay..... That's um.... no words for that thinking really.

Quagaars I am going by Tavistock and GIDS reports amongst others. Huge spike in young teenage girls identifying as boys in recent years. 80% desist rate observed. Ergo, most would be teenage females or thereabouts. It is well documented.

@BaronessWrongCrowd

I look forward to the day that condoms come with packaging that says they are for people who ejaculate.

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Quavers, it's obvious most transmen desist

Let's start with trans gender being innate. Obviously

We know now that thousands of teenage girls are seeking help with their transgender identity. It follows therefore that in each generation thousands of girls have had difficulties with their gender identity. Just historically there has been little support.

Where have those troubled girls gone?

Many stand here before you, having reconciled themselves to having a female body and generally thinking gender is something to be avoided rather than celebrated

Being more inclusive for trans men

Trans men being biologically female just for clarity as earlier on the thread some people didn't seem to realise and thought it was referring to trans women

@TorkTorkBam

I object to the falseness of the support for the transmen and non-binary females.

Keep in mind that the vast majority of transmen and non-binary are teenage females who will later desist.

Let's say Superdrug really wanted to help females who are uncomfortable buying period products.

The transmans in the article reminds me of the mortification I felt as a young teenager if I had to buy sanitary towels myself in the shop and "everybody" would know I was on my period or had periods sometimes (nobody else gave a hoot of course, it was all in my mind). I am sure I was not the only teenager to feel this way.

The writing on the package doesn't help really with any of that does it? It is an empty gesture.

If they really wanted to hell they would make boxes of tampons look less obviously like a box of tampons. Or they would have some of them in another aisle or dotted around, like they do with products they want to push, so the awkward female person does not have to browse the feminine products aisle.

Superdrug are showing fake support for trans people imo.

Yes, they could do as someone else suggested earlier and make a “man package” one and put them in the “man aisle”, where they could also ascertain the take-up of said products

Yes, they could do as someone else suggested earlier and make a “man package” one and put them in the “man aisle”, where they could also ascertain the take-up of said products

Hmm, good idea on the face of it, but I'd have thought the amount of people buying them wouldn't be worth doing a whole new man range for - the way I see it it makes more sense to just make the ones already available inclusive for everyone.

I don't think removing the word woman makes it more inclusive in reality. It is an empty gesture.

There are meaningful things they could do if they really cared. Many of those things might help women too. Many of us would appreciate things being less gendered even when sex-specific. The real things are harder. They are not actually bothered so they do the non-thing and give themselves a gold star. I am not impressed. If I had gender dysphoria I would be even less impressed I think.

@Quaagars

Yes, they could do as someone else suggested earlier and make a “man package” one and put them in the “man aisle”, where they could also ascertain the take-up of said products

Hmm, good idea on the face of it, but I'd have thought the amount of people buying them wouldn't be worth doing a whole new man range for - the way I see it it makes more sense to just make the ones already available inclusive for everyone.

Did you you miss my previous query on a previous comment of yours?

Quaagars
“Meh. Does anyone really read the back of packets?
I don't, anyway.
If it makes trans men feel included too it takes nothing away from me, I'm still a woman doing it.
Is the "people who shave" comparable? I don't think it is as men who shave isn't the same as trans men would call themselves men too.
So already inclusive, being trans men.
Trans men with women's products though, not inclusive for trans men.”

If no-one reads the back how is it going to make them feel included?

'If they really wanted to hell they would make boxes of tampons look less obviously like a box of tampons

Like make them look like a box of chocolates, or a pair of shoes?
That'll just make even MORE confusion lol'

What an incredibly sexist comment.

Not surprised.

If the ones in the "man" package are better made I will buy them. Like I do with socks.

Better made and cheaper probs

No I didn't miss it, I just didn't feel the need to answer or comment on it as I thought "yeah, good point"
Then again I'm not trans, so I don't presume to know what it feels like to go buy them every month.

@NiceGerbil

'If they really wanted to hell they would make boxes of tampons look less obviously like a box of tampons

Like make them look like a box of chocolates, or a pair of shoes?
That'll just make even MORE confusion lol'

What an incredibly sexist comment.

Not surprised.

Why is that sexist? Apparently transmen have said they feel very dysphoric when buying sanitary products. To reduce this, Superdrug have removed the word woman. I do not believe this is going to seriously diminish the dysphoric reaction of a female who identifies as trans or non-binary compared to the impact of going over to the feminine hygiene section, picking a box of tampons, carrying them to the till and paying for them. It just doesn't seem like Superdrug are really thinking about how to help afab people with dysphoria. Packaging and location would surely help more.

Of course it's sexist to say that changing the packaging would mean to a box of chocolates or shoes.

Because that's what women like, isn't it. And pink and flowers and giggling and prosecco and never messing their hair up.

That comment is incredibly sexist.

Nobody's ever stopped DH buying my sanitary products or stopped me to check I was buying sanitary products for me, or am I shopping in the wrong place?

We could simply not say who the tampons are for and just say 'tampons'. That would be lovely and inclusive of anyone with female biology who has a need for menstrual products because your average biological man isn't going to become confused and buy himself 6 packs by accident.
Somehow I doubt that would be considered acceptable as this seems to be part of a bigger picture where the aim is eroding women, not inclusion.

What an incredibly sexist comment

Eh? Literally the first items that popped into my head.
Are chocolates and shoes for females only now or something?
If so, since when?!
OK, if they're too sterotypical of what a woman likes (really wasn't that deep as my teens say) would something "less girly" be more appropriate (whatever the fuck that is)
A bag of spanners?
Something neutral like a food item maybe that's safer?

Ive no real issue with this at all, as long as Superdrug do the same for shaving products etc

I wasn't even on about stereotypes, sexist, really not sure why we jumped to there!
Just items we could disguise sanitary products as like somebody had suggested upthread.

Of course it's sexist to say that changing the packaging would mean to a box of chocolates or shoes
Because that's what women like, isn't it. And pink and flowers and giggling and prosecco and never messing their hair up

If I was meaning what you're suggesting, (which I wasn't) - how does this even begin to make sense when we're talking about disguising a box of sanitary products as something so trans men would feel more at ease buying?
"I know! Let's disguise it as something some people think is a Very Womanly Thing, that'll make trans men feel more included!"
Erm......

I care about women and girls.

In this instance I don't want to focus on what appears to be the male TRA agenda of erasing women. Even if that triggered the Superdrug change.

There are teenagers who would call themselves afab and queer/trans/non-binary who find it distressing to buy sanitary products in a shop. I would be fully behind changes to how sanitary products are marketed and presented to make those females feel more comfortable. I happen to think those changes would likely have wider benefits.

I would rather have a go at Superdrug for pretending to help while actually doing fuck all to help (and pissing off a load of other females). This does not have to be a TRA vs GC issue.

Let's help the girls who have body issues and being female issues. Let's not just shout at them not to be embarrassed it is perfectly natural. That kind of older woman advice never helped us when we were embarrassed as teenagers did it?

You can't expect females aged say 14-24 to give no fucks at all about what people think in the same way as females aged say 54-64. They are easily mortified. Trans or not. Let's help them out a bit.

@Quaagars

No I didn't miss it, I just didn't feel the need to answer or comment on it as I thought "yeah, good point" Then again I'm not trans, so I don't presume to know what it feels like to go buy them every month.

I would presume that they’d prefer to go to men’s aisle

Let's help them out a bit.

I don’t think this helps anyone so no, I don’t be emotionally manipulated into accepting regressive things like this.

I agree Milly, this particular action helps nobody.

It just pretends to, which I think is worse. If I were trans I would be insulted by this packaging wording change.

Once again females are given a token gesture to shut them up without anything materially beneficial being done to help.