Sanitary products for people who menstruate

[jellyandiscream]

Sorry for the daily fail link but has anyone seen this? Sanitary products for people who menstruate from Superdrug. What were they thinking?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8697841/Shoppers-ridicule-woke-Superdrug-launches-sanitary-products-people-menstruate.html

I found another one:

www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/transgender-man-pregnant-second-child-22227559.amp

Here the transman says:

Just because I went from female to male doesn't mean I have a desire to date women or be hyper masculine or even be cis-gender.

I don't have to hate my body or object parts of it to be considered a real man.

I'm lucky enough to have a working uterus and reproductive system that allows me to carry a child and create life so why should I have to reject that part of me just because I'm trans?

I see the standard and the metro are right on board. And the standard even takes the opportunity to throw in a JKR dig. No comments allowed.

@Quaagars , NiceGerbil pretty much summed it up from a trans umbrella point of view. Under the new definitions, that is one of the accepted views and I think for trans women even more so maybe as many are very comfortable with their lady penises.

And of course some are not and may feeling awful about their bodies whatever they do. The trans umbrella is very wide.

Many on this board do not understand this widening of the trans umbrella either. Especially as most people here reject gender completely as a social construct and believe whatever you wear and how you act is irrelevant, but should be accepted.

However, people here are protective of women’s sports (due to the advance of male puberty) and single sex spaces especially because of this widening of the trans umbrella. They also question why someone who is comfortable with their lady penis should be in a single sex space where there are vulnerable women.

It may seem a small thing with the text on the package, but in more and more places the word woman is erased whereas the word man remains. Smear tests are proposed for “cervix havers” (some vulnerable minority groups will not know what this is), but prostate tests are for men. This is why there is a general push back in all areas when the word woman is erased.

And most obvious of all for single sex spaces. Given the above, how on Earth to you separate “genuine” trans people from predators and impostors?

And for packaging, why is the word woman erased everywhere, but never the word man? Because if there is a push to remove sex/gender descriptions, why only woman?

Because if there is a push to remove sex/gender descriptions, why only woman?

It sure is a headscratcher isn't it?

Fucking madness. Trans people who do not have a uterus and ovaries are incapable of menstruating. What is so difficult to understand about this and why are companies deciding they can?

Another shop I'll not be going in again.

@NiceGerbil

Short answer.

No it's fine. Transmen having babies or transwoman enjoying their penises is aok and if you're not comfortable you're an old fashioned bigot. Stop policing people's bodies!

It's fine, and demonstrates that they are transmen, not men or transwomen not women.
The Humpty Dumpty use of words relating to the human sexes to mean whatever you think they should is of neither use nor ornament.

What the makers of menstrual products are absolutely right on is ditching the term 'feminine'. They're for all women who have periods, regardless of whether they're feminine or masculine.

@ErrolTheDragon

What the makers of menstrual products are absolutely right on is ditching the term 'feminine'. They're for all women who have periods, regardless of whether they're feminine or masculine.

Feminine hygiene signs always used to piss me off

Why do so many products need to be sexed/gendered?

Can't they simply be menstruation, incontinence, shaving etc etc products?

To be fair, half the problem is euphemisms, I would never have thought to myself "I need some feminine hygiene products".. Surely "period products" would make more sense.

Imagine this being your main problem with the world. God god this thread.

I no longer menstruate. I’m still a god damn women. Some men menstruate. Still makes them men. They’re not reduced to their bits.

If you think this erases women you’ve lost it

No men menstruate, some trans men menstruate because they are biologically female. Any biological man bleeding from their reproductive organs should see a doctor

How is it helping anyone to go along with the pretence that human beings can change sex? Wear what you like, call yourself whatever you want, no problem with whatever of the multiple genders people want to present as but humans cannot change sex

How many times does this have to be said? Not ALL women menstruate but ONLY women menstruate.

I no longer menstruate. I’m still a god damn women.

Er, yes we know. Because not all women menstruate for various reasons, but everyone who menstruates is a woman. Its really not that hard, I don't understand how people get so confused over this!

Some men menstruate. Still makes them men. They’re not reduced to their bits.

How, exactly, are you a man if you menstruate? Do you know what the mean of 'man' is?

I don't understand why 'non binary' people would be triggered by the use of the word 'woman'.

Surely the whole point of identifying as non binary is showing everyone that you don't fit squarely into either gender box?

After all, female 'non binary' partners aren't surprised when they are the ones who become pregnant. Or are they?

Isn't having periods just part of the female bit, or not having them part of the male bit, of being non binary?

I no longer menstruate. I’m still a god damn women.

Of course you are. They key words in this sentence are 'used to'. No man has ever menstruated, ever will or ever can.

A woman who 'no longer mentlstruates' is not the same as a man.

Some men menstruate. Still makes them men. They’re not reduced to their bits.

Also, does this mean that if my DH (who is a man) and I want another child, I can hand over all of the pregnancy, giving birth and breastfeeding shit to him, and I can just have an orgasm and have my part in the process done with? If we are 'not reduced to our bits'?

Why didnt anyone tell me this before???

Why didnt anyone tell me this before???

I know, it's a mystery, isnt it.

Or a conspiracy.

One or the other.

@Quaagars

Meh. Does anyone really read the back of packets? I don't, anyway. If it makes trans men feel included too it takes nothing away from me, I'm still a woman doing it. Is the "people who shave" comparable? I don't think it is as men who shave isn't the same as trans men would call themselves men too. So already inclusive, being trans men. Trans men with women's products though, not inclusive for trans men.

I don't think this is about transmen. It's about not pissing off transwomen who cant menstruate so don't want the word woman associated with a biological function of which they are incapable

Don’t some buy the packs and pregnancy tests (and take the test and post hopeful messages)? And yes, I’ve seen some on twitter saying this. Experiences and all that.

My head hurts.

Yes sadly serenity that has happened. Lauren harries posted this - it’s all so messed up! it’s another reason ppl cheerleading this is the name of kindness need to give their head a firm wobble

@StopGo

Why do so many products need to be sexed/gendered?

Can't they simply be menstruation, incontinence, shaving etc etc products?

Period products are inherently sexed. They're only needed because of the way our sexual reproductive systems work. Incontinence products are also sexed, I believe, because of the difference in where the urine leaks from. A surgically altered TW might need the version designed for females I suppose but so would a TM.

Shaving afaik is different only in that there may typically be some difference in which parts are shaved - a mix of sex and gender. Describing those by function 'facial' or not would be fine I'd have thought. Certainly no need for 'women's' razors to be pink.

For everyone’s sake I hope your kids aren’t LGBTQ+