Joe Biden's plans for LGBT+

[SunsetBeetch]

Whilst there are lots of good thing in here (the reversing of the ban on trans people in the military, for example), there is also this:

"Guaranteeing transgender students have access to facilities based on their gender identity. On his first day in office, Biden will reinstate the Obama-Biden guidance revoked by the Trump-Pence Administration, which will restore transgender students’ access to sports, bathrooms, and locker rooms in accordance with their gender identity. He will direct his Department of Education to vigorously enforce and investigate violations of transgender students’ civil rights."

How he squares this with his pledges regarding women's rights, I do not know. I could scream!

joebiden.com/lgbtq-policy/

Unless somehow the political classes change their behaviour
Then get involved and change it from the inside
DO SOMETHING

ideally that improves the rights and opportunities of women

I know we've gone round the houses on this on this (side-issue) before, Kitty, so I'll just re-iterate a couple of points from last time we discussed this.

1. Viewed from a society-wide perspective, providing free contraception as part of your national health system is a hell of a lot cheaper than dealing with the downstream consequences of unwanted pregnancies. Sheer economic self interest makes it a good idea.

2. Viewed from an individual perspective, what's galling about the hobby lobby judgement is that one specific aspect of healthcare is being excluded from an employment package solely on the basis of the religious prejudices of the employer - female employees get discriminated against simply because of the weird patriarchal hang-ups of the bosses (and yet, mysteriously, viagra is still okay - strange that...)

Someone can think access is important but that a system like the NHS isn't the best way to do it.

Yes, there is more than one way to deliver health care, but the point I was making is that in the UK the NHS has overwhelming support, so its very difficult to compare the US and the UK political parties on some key issues.

There is no main stream political party in the UK with a manifesto pledge to introduce a different healthcare system, which on this issue puts them all to the left of the Democrats.

How do low income families afford the cost of contraception to allow them to climb out of poverty

Low-income families have Medicaid and Planned Parenthood. Before ACA, those who could pay for their own contraception did so, those who couldn’t took advantage of government programs or charitable programs. But I just don’t think it’s the role of government to hand out birth control when women can access it themselves and have accessed it themselves for ages.

I was talking about this in another thread—the problem with contraception in the US isn’t so much the cost, it’s access. You need a prescription to get BCPs but these should really be available in any pharmacy without a script. I’ve lived overseas in countries where you can get birth control packs for 10 dollars, which seems about right to me. Only those in dire poverty would find it onerous, and there are specific programs to target them.

But yes, we’ve gone round this topic a few times so let’s just agree to disagree here.

@HelloToMyKitty

But yes, we’ve gone round this topic a few times so let’s just agree to disagree here.

A mumsnet first! Agree to disagree. How civilised. More of this sort of thing, I say.

(Instead of plunging into an epic derailment. I suspect this is really what separates in good faith posters from determined to derail posters.)

@ListeningQuietly

Unless somehow the political classes change their behaviour Then get involved and change it from the inside DO SOMETHING

ideally that improves the rights and opportunities of women

?

This is political discussion, on a UK board. Most people are watching in horror and only able to make predictions about what would happen.

But even so, "do something" is pretty general. High level political action has become cut off from grass roots organisations almost across the board. That's a large part of the source of the problem.

High level political action has become cut off from grass roots organisations almost across the board. That's a large part of the source of the problem.
So what are you doing about it in the UK ?

• Parish Council
• District Council
• County Council
• party membership

or do you sit on the sidelines and winge about others doing the above?