Before the tweets are deleted...

[twoHopes]

Hi everyone, I've been trying to screenshot all of the celeb Mermaids endorsements before they are deleted but I'm sure there are some I've missed so I was wondering if you could help me out.

Here are the list of celebs and organisations I've screenshotted (I've got a lot more than this but I'm excluding the minor/random celebs and organisations):

Emma Watson
Munroe Bergdorf
Liberty
Princes Trust
Dr Rang Singh
Jade Thirlwall (Little Mix)
Lorraine Kelly
Aon
Barclays
DMW Group
John Barrowman
Jameela Jamil
Duncan James
Sam Smith
Owen Jones
Starbucks (hard for them to delete that one!)
Channel 4
Canadian High Commission

Have I missed any obvious big names? I don't seem to have Josie Long saved anywhere

twoHopes apologies, when you said the purpose of this is that the story can't be told without this list of names I thought you were planning to tell the story. My mistake.

Still not sure this is justified. Nor how celebrities might be held to account, bar public shaming.

Merseyside Police.

I seem to remember - now I need to rattle my brain here - that a certain charity person boasted about having a close friendship with a senior policeman? Or did I imagine that? It was on twitter I think and almost like a ‘sat anything and I’ll call my mate...’

Still not sure this is justified. Nor how celebrities might be held to account, bar public shaming.
It’s got to be worth keeping the record for when the reverse ferrets start. It’s not about cancelling but when the great and good start expressing outrage about the mutilation of children, it’ll be nice to know who’s genuine and who’s a self serving p.o.s.

Or who has the bad judgement to hitch their wagon to the star du jour without listening - and even throwing insults at those who advise caution.

Unfortunately 'band wagons' will always be with us.

Hopefully safeguarding will be brought back as a number 1 priority, but for how long before the next star attraction.

I must admit that I'm not too happy about how this looks, even though I can see why you're doing it.

@unwashedanddazed

Serenity I know what 'this side' does, I've been GC for about 8 or 9 years. I'm on the same 'side' as the rest of you here.

But this somewhat gleeful list making looks like the tactics of TRAs. Unless the twoHopes is intending to actually write the story of what's happening, in which case I withdraw my expression of discomfort at what is going on in this thread.

I hear you, but I don't quite agree. A list, no matter how gleefully compiled, is not a tactic. Using the list to go after people in the style of social justice warriors like trans rights activists would indeed be a tactic.

And as you suggest, holding people to account even on a massive failure in safeguarding children can look like unfairly persecuting them if this is not done in an appropriate manner. However, at this point no one is organising to do anything of the sort.

What the OP is seeking to do is to document what happened. When something has gone wrong, this is an important part of making sure it never happens again.

That many here are gleeful about celebs ending up with egg on their face is understandable. After all, an awful lot of them rather condescendingly cast us as hateful bigots, ill-informed sheeple in need of re-education or regressive transphobes.

Some of the time, the high road simply doesn't appeal to some of us.

I have no idea what is going on and why links and tweets are being deleted.

But I do know that celebrity endorsement is a hugely important part of generating funds for organisations like mermaids. Many of them (including mermaids) employ someone specifically to build and grow relationships with celebs.

For example, the man who was quietly let go from the NSPCC for wanking in the staff loos in his gimp suit was responsible for managing celeb relationships.

Sorry went off on a tangent there. My point is that celeb endorsements are hugely financially valuable. It's incumbent upon celebs (or their agents) to do the due diligence on the organisations they endorse.

The have influence - most worrying are the ones who appeal to young women.

CharlieParley I fully get all that you're saying. Especially the anger at those who fling insults at women who want to protect children from harmful ideology. The desire for comeuppance and hopefully some humility from the wokesters is an enticing prospect.

I suppose I'm just uncomfortable with the cancel culture-adjacent tone I read into this thread.

I'll shut me gob now!

Hate to say it but you're all starting to look a bit deranged and witch hunty, like you're sniffing the air for blood.

Assuming that everyone suddenly wakes up to the scandal of sterilising young people, especially gay ones and ones on the Autistic spectrum, there will be a very large number of people moving into denial mode pretending it was never something they supported. Having examples of the unthinking support that led to the scandal will be helpful in dealing with the fall-out.

I'd recommend saving the tweets by using an archiving website like archive.fo/ in order to get results like this: archive.fo/cNiRL. It's then much easier to resist claims that it's all photoshopped.

Come on, Unwashed, do you really think NSPCC (for instance) should be able to scrub out their involvement and enthusiastic backing of Mermaids, when their reason for existence is the meant to be the safeguarding of children? That Emma Watson can pretend to be more thoughtful and caring than GC women generally and JKR specifically despite endorsing a charity that has clearly harmed children in the name of transgender identity?

For me it's about highlighting how dangerous it is to mindlessly throw your support behind a cause or charity

Yes, we all must learn from this, and not allow "reverse ferrets". Let's not allow a re-write of history, because if we do we are still in 1984.

Sorry unwashed didn't see your most recent post

Amazon had an online Pride Event that had their logo on it; it was linked to a fundraiser I think.

Ah yes - they did also give money to them too didn’t they - was it part of the business?

Mharie black

I've obviously missed a lot. Why are people dropping support for Mermaids? What's brought this about?

I know there must be threads on this but I cannot find one that tells me what has happened to cause people like Jemeela Jamil and co to backtrack. Thanks.

Jake and Hannah Graff
Fox and Owl

@unwashedanddazed

CharlieParley I fully get all that you're saying. Especially the anger at those who fling insults at women who want to protect children from harmful ideology. The desire for comeuppance and hopefully some humility from the wokesters is an enticing prospect.

I suppose I'm just uncomfortable with the cancel culture-adjacent tone I read into this thread.

I'll shut me gob now!

Please don't do that. Don't silence yourself.

We must be able to have respectful disagreements on our side of the debate. We must be able to question whether we are doing the right things, what impact our actions may have and above all we must be able to listen to each other.

Your post made me think. And question if archiving these endorsements is the right thing to do. On this occasion, I think it is, but it is not wrong to remind us not to sink to the low tactics the other side has employed.

Please don't do that. Don't silence yourself.

I agree with this. As I said, I'm very open to criticism and I'm interested to hear others' thoughts. I really want the GC side of the argument to maintain the moral high ground and I don't want anything I do to be seen as compromising that.

This appears to be "a thing"

twitter.com/suzanne_moore/status/1293508438903918592

mobile.twitter.com/bindelj/status/1293516614512648192

Julie Bindel is asking for this same info for a 'thing'

I just found this, but am not on Twitter to use it:

mobile.twitter.com/tweet_stamp

Boy George
Davina McCall
Sheridan smith also following mermaids