If we can't define what a woman is, how can we organise politically? Suzanne Moore in the Guardian!!

[stumbledin]

Well - have the wheels turned a bit at the Guardian or what???

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/03/define-what-a-woman-is-organise-politically-suzanne-moore

Holy shit. That will ruffle some feathers!

Yessss, Suzanne! Thank you.

Good to see her back!

I will wait for the "counter view" to be published that tries to explain where she is going wrong
If they avoid that , then I shall be happy

Good for her. That's a well crafted piece. Cue for the vicious outpourings on twitter at the temerity of a woman demanding the right to name ourselves.

Holy Moly! Now that is encouraging.

Frighteningly good.

She hits the nail almost on the head. But she doesn't know that even the word 'female' is now unacceptable as something that refers to biological sex. So we have lost all power of naming the group which actually does experience sexism and other sex-based types of oppression.

Suzanne, I think I love you. There is nothing in that that is hateful and you have put into words what I feel about the whole thing. The bloody Guardian have not enabled comments so I can’t rave about how brilliant it is.

Blimey I'm amazed the guardian published that piece. But pleased!

I reject this. Am I more than a collection of body parts? Am I allowed to talk of my own life? Am I a woman simply out of choice?

the right of women to define themselves in a system that is afraid we might do just that

Yes.

Well said Suzanne. Why is this point of view so fucking unacceptable???

Well said, Suzanne.

(I can hear the sound of LOJ sharpening the pitchforks and oiling the wheels on the tumbril.)

This is excellent, and I feel a tiny bit proud that I might have played a part in this question being asked (after Jo Swinson phone in).
I'm sure she will get backlash but if she does it proves her point!

I can hear the sound of LOJ sharpening the pitchforks and oiling the wheels on the tumbril
Owen wouldn't fucking dare to take on Suzanne - he know there's only going to be one winner of that contest.

He might retweet if somebody else stands up to her though.

Also shout out to Victoria from Inverness who asked the same question on LBC yesterday x

I fucking love you, Suzanne Moore. Thank you for not bowing down. Now, if you could just feed OJ into the shredder, on your way past his desk...

'will happily respect anyone’s pronouns and I ask other people, too, to respect the language that defines my life in a female meat suit' me too

Brava Suzanne Moore! She cuts to the core of the issue in a very neat way.

@aliasundercover

I can hear the sound of LOJ sharpening the pitchforks and oiling the wheels on the tumbril Owen wouldn't fucking dare to take on Suzanne - he know there's only going to be one winner of that contest.

He might retweet if somebody else stands up to her though.

True - he's probably still licking his wounds from Janice Turner's magnificent put-down.

Brilliant. Very clear and concise.

She has really come back fighting. Look at her response to the odious Ben BT

mobile.twitter.com/suzanne_moore/status/1290318797681958914

Also at a later point in her Twitter feed someone informs them that they have now been blocked by both Owen Jones and Toby Young. She describes them as two cheeks of the same bum. I laughed out loud.

Owen Jones and Toby Young. She describes them as two cheeks of the same bum

Bwahahahaha!