Today’s witch burning - Rosie Duffield MP

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has had to lock down her Twitter account after being inundated with hate for saying women have cervix’s

The TRA are now spamming labour with complaints about her transphobia & demands she is sacked

I’m planning to email my support fir her copying in Keir Starmer

(And yes of course LOJ is involved!)

"Which is why labour got their arses handed to them in the last GE."

Exactly, you know it, I know it, the Labour heartlands know it.
The Labour Party as it stands, has nothing in common with the working class, or even ordinary people who want to see change for the better for everyone.
The Labour Party has put all it's chips on the tiny, identity politics pockets.

or even ordinary people who want to see change for the better for everyone.

Exactly. The Labour party canvassers who knocked on my door said that they "just wanted a better five years" ahead. I asked them how my life would be better if I was unable, legally, to say no to seeing a stranger's penis in the showers at the local pool. They couldn't answer that one.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

or even ordinary people who want to see change for the better for everyone.

Exactly. The Labour party canvassers who knocked on my door said that they "just wanted a better five years" ahead. I asked them how my life would be better if I was unable, legally, to say no to seeing a stranger's penis in the showers at the local pool. They couldn't answer that one.

I luffs you

Muttonindistress It's my guilty pleasure

Keir Starmer can tweet about Covid 19, unemployment etc and within minutes there is a pile on. When he condemns racist tweets to David Lammy then it'll be 'but Dianne Abbot receives them all the time'. If he raises antisemitism then it'll be 'but what about transphobes'. It's like a competition. Labour is very divided.

"If Cummings so chose, he could turn trans radicalism into a wedge issue that would slice Labour down the middle and set the country against elite opinion."

Worth remembering that Cummings' wife is Commissioning Editor of the Spectator.

I am not an expert in magazine circulation figure but the 2019 ABC figure was 91,254, of which about 85,000 were paid for. The Spectator were boasting that in the latter half of 2018 sales numbers were 76,200, and that was a 50% increase on a decade before, despite the problems faced by print media.

Why would a right leaning, but intelligent, magazine be thriving, when established left leaning journals like the Guardian are struggling. Fundamentally I think it is because one allows readers to think and to disagree, whereas prevailing left orthodoxy seems to require unanimity, even when the orthodoxy is clearly bonkers.

This is an article the Guardian should have written.

To be honest I've never felt strongly either way about the trans issue, it just isn't on my political radar at the moment. But the comments towards Rosie Duffield were misogynistic and bullying. The far left are using it as a way of baiting the centrist labour mps.

But the comments towards Rosie Duffield were misogynistic and bullying. The far left are using it as a way of baiting the centrist labour mps.

This was my first ever experience with far-left bullying. Someone on a FB group posted pictures of about 20 or so MPs who had approved cuts to disability benefits. At least 3/4 were women and the comments were just a misogynistic pile-on. When I commented on this I was first told that it was fine as misogyny was nothing compared to how evenly the tories are and they deserved it. They then turned on me.

This arsehole has since been permanently banned from FB for antisemitic remarks. He actually denounced Jeremy Corbyn because he ‘supported’ the existence of Israel, but the tories are the nasty ones....

As an Anglican, I'm pleased to see the Archbishop of Canterbury come to Rosie's defence this afternoon.
twitter.com/JustinWelby/status/1290701860588969991

@Needmoresleep absolutely

I now subscribe to the spectator and to the times, mainly for trheir stance on this issue.

I'm a left leaning feminist who bought thE guardian for YEARS

Crikey the Archbishop is getting some nasty replies from the inclusive types.

@Portnlemon

Crikey the Archbishop is getting some nasty replies from the inclusive types.

Good. Institutional capture is a huge issue for us. Let the institutions experience a little TRA pile on, it might make them think beyond "be kind".

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito I completely agree. Lots of Anglicans will see this.

Ugh. Grace Petrie attempting to make Rosie Duffield's 'offence' a very complicated thing that should merit great cancellation, and not a supportive mention from the Archbishop.

The thread we have here in FWR on 'the wheels falling off' where the quasi-religious mindset of all this is quite instructive in this regard.

I knew Dianne Abbot and Jeremy Corbyn would be raised within about 15 minutes of the archbishops tweet. 'You said nothing when Corbyn and Abbot were trolled? Etc,etc.

I’m quite amused that the Wokebishop has suddenly discovered that you can never be Woke enough for the mob.

Rachel Reeves joining in now. Its all on show in the Labour party this week. Len McCluskey threatening to remove Union funding if Keir Starmer moves Labour too far right.

Where will Len take his cash to I wonder?

Anyone looking at Labour's behaviour after losing almost all of their seats in Scotland could have predicted their decline in England. We owed them our vote. It was the electorate's fault for losing them the election. We didn't understand.

Followed by visits from down South where English Labour Party leaders and functionaries demonstrated their complete ignorance of the new Scottish politics.

It's all fine and well to hate on another party. But if that party is already enacting policies you're also promising in your manifesto, but you're calling that party's policies all kinds of bad things, it makes you look like utterly contemptuous, arrogant twats lording it over the backwards Scots.

There's the beginnings of the framing of Leave voters right there: At best uneducated yokels who don't know any better, at worst racist (or in Scotland nationalist) swine unworthy of voting Labour but who ought to be grateful they can vote Labour nonetheless.

Taking people's vote for granted does not serve any party well. If you're also freely showing your contempt for those voters? Electoral disaster.

Yes Charlie. You'd think they'd learn, but no, they're doubling down. Starmer has shown some spine over some issues (antisemitism) but on this he's sitting on the fence so hard he'll need surgical grade tweezers to get the splinters out of his arse.

As with the summer after the referendum, where they could have capitalised on the Tories' acrimonious leadership debacle, but chose instead to descend into internicine warfare, or the most recent election where they should have been shooting at an open goal, because Boris - any half way decent Labour party would have won hands down, they seem intent on making themselves unelectable, then blaming the electorate.

Given the government's mishandling of covid (care homes, which was nothing short of criminal, PPE, testing, opening pubs before schools) Labour ought to be able to win the next election by a country mile. But they seem intent on finding themselves issues which will manage to lose it.

Len will flex his muscles but it'll be interesting to see how Starmer reacts. I don't think there is public appetite for a party left of Labour, plus the likes of Corbyn, McDonnel probably feel more relevant being part of a major political party. I don't think they'll start a new party, they'll just fight to keep Labour to the far left.

[quote Distractable]As an Anglican, I'm pleased to see the Archbishop of Canterbury come to Rosie's defence this afternoon.
twitter.com/JustinWelby/status/1290701860588969991[/quote]
Welby's tweet in support of Rosie was reported on tonight's local ITV news (Meridian)! It just mentioned it briefly and said that her tweet was about only women having a cervix.
The tide is turning!

Here's another Spectator piece on Rosie Duffield

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/rosie-duffield-and-the-war-on-women/amp?twitterr_impression=true

"Starmer then needs to dismiss the wild demands of the petulant youngsters behind the LCTR, or newspaper columnists who should know better. Their campaign boils down to a power grab: to get their own way irrespective of the interests of others, in particular women desperately holding on to the word 'woman'."

I didn't know about the Labour Campaign for Trans Rights pledges. No 5 is:

Accept that there is no material conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, and that all trans women are subject to misogyny and patriarchal oppression.

No 9 is:

1. Organise and fight against transphobic organisations such as Woman’s Place UK, LGB Alliance and other trans-exclusionist hate groups.

Here is the whole pledge:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdwPyenUicSJgKv1YTknZ47gDGU4bb_389zYbqH10TGSTRrpg/viewform

(Sorry for the formatting. Don't know how that happened. )

Rosie Duffield has been back on Twitter to thank Welby and a few of the others who tweeted in support.

She hasn't yet backed down - I hardly dare hope...