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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dominos and the offer to "Karens"

103 replies

hilaryhughes · 30/07/2020 09:20

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53589897

So Dominos has cancelled its offer of free pizza to "Karens" that it made on social media a few days back. The reason for this cancellation is the backlash it received from the wokies, who aren't very happy that white women are being rewarded with free pizza (lol), because they're entitled, privileged, and use their skin colour in nefarious ways.

For example, twitter.com/aramreyess/status/1288314493085179904

I'm absolutely sick of this anti-woman, anti-white bullsh*t that's spreading through society.. I just have to say. Why is this happening?

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DandyMandy · 30/07/2020 14:17

"When you wanna reward more privilege to the most privileged in our society," Since when did white women turn into white men? How are white women the most privileged? I don't understand this. This anti white, anti woman agenda being pushed by the wokebros will leave women open to being targeted (even more so than we already are) by men of all races and surprise, surprise we won't be believed because we're just being "Karens" if we complain. George Floyd was killed by a black man, but I don't see any male get called a "Derek". The whole thing would make you think men are sweet, innocent little angels who never do anything wrong. How ridiculous it has come to this.

Datun · 30/07/2020 14:18

Misogynists invent word to have a go at women, pizza delivery company make it worse by singling them out, and misogynists seize it as reason to be even more rage filled with the invented misogynistic term they created in the first place.

LillianBland · 30/07/2020 14:20

@MintyMabel

It’s a misogynistic insult, being used to shut women up.

It is used far more widely by women.

Yes, there are many women who want to be seen as ‘not like other women’, in an effort to be ‘cool’ and appease men, even if it means shitting on other women. Internal misogyny defiantly exists.
LillianBland · 30/07/2020 14:23

@Datun

Misogynists invent word to have a go at women, pizza delivery company make it worse by singling them out, and misogynists seize it as reason to be even more rage filled with the invented misogynistic term they created in the first place.
That’s it, in a nutshell. Though I don’t think the rage is real. I can’t just see them sitting there, rubbing their hands with glee, when they spot another opportunity to verbally attack females.
LillianBland · 30/07/2020 14:25

@5amonSunday

anti-white bullshit Hmm

I’m a young person and definitely understand the Karen stereotype - I’ve experienced it myself when I used to work in retail.

Me too.

So men are always well behaved? That’s funny, because when I worked in retail, it was mainly men getting angry, bullying staff and sleazing on to female workers. Has that changed over the years?
Datun · 30/07/2020 14:27

Depends where you work I suppose. If you work in a women's clothing shop, then yes, most of the complaints will be from women.

Datun · 30/07/2020 14:28

Restaurants, I should imagine are an entirely different matter. Even spread in terms of customers.

Kantastic · 30/07/2020 14:32

It’s happens more frequently than you think. Have you not seen the sheer amount of videos with white middle aged women calling the police on black people for no reason and acting hysterically?

wow I can definitely see you are free of misogynist bias and in no way coming from a place of woman hating, thank you for not being hysterical about it xx stay woke punctuation is for nazis

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 30/07/2020 14:35

@IDanielRadcliffe

Has anyone actually seen this supposed “Karen” behaviour in action? I have never seen a middle aged woman behave in this way yet it supposedly happens multiple times a day?
Not in real life no

I met lovely customers of both sexes and horrible ones...more lovely than horrible

Dervel · 30/07/2020 14:35

I have worked retail and can confirm there were just as many male Karens. Also some non-white ones. Essentially there is a certain type of consumerist entitled behaviour that makes me cringe no matter who is doing it.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 30/07/2020 14:37

punctuation is for nazis

I dont use punctuation, not sure of the nazi bit

Kantastic · 30/07/2020 14:38

it's an interesting thread on Twitter. Dominos obviously thought they were doing something fun and lighthearted and kind. They didn't anticipate the anger of the woke crowd at this, because they made the error of assuming the woke crowd were genuinely driven by some kind of concern for justice and not by sheer misogynistic bile.

I like how the wokies are exposing themselves there. Even to a casual observer, there's no doubt to give these people the benefit of, and I think that is happening more and more. if the woke don't get the authoritarian dystopia they're going for, they will be universally reviled in short order.

BreastedBoobilyToTheStairs · 30/07/2020 14:39

Chad isn't the male version - AFAIK its 'Ken' for middle aged men or 'Kyle' for younger men. The fact that there isn't actually any real clarity on the terms really does highlight how much more 'Karen' is used as an insult towards women.

Chad refers to a sexual 'alpha male' type - it's an incel term that's been around for years.

It's all a load of bollocks. More ridiculous labels to slap onto people in an effort to group them together so they can be admonished for woke points. Heaven forbid someone is just plain arsehole anymore.

Kantastic · 30/07/2020 14:40

I dont use punctuation, not sure of the nazi bit

Not using punctuation is also for Nazis. But only if you are more successful than me and I can get a mob going.

highame · 30/07/2020 14:43

@Hairthrowaway

I don't want to stereotype but I might hazard a guess that you're a young entitled white person, probably middle class.

They're all over the place

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 30/07/2020 14:45

Not using punctuation is also for Nazis. But only if you are more successful than me and I can get a mob going

You’re bang out of luck with that

😀 I’m not successful in the slightest

How many people is a mob anyway

namechanger0989 · 30/07/2020 14:46

This is ridiculous... dominoes are actually making the offer to people with the NAME Karen, which I think they bloody deserve the amount of stick they have got recently!
They haven't said are you an over privileged woman who thinks she is better than every one? then here is some free pizza...
I am also sick of people making things in to something they are not!

Kantastic · 30/07/2020 14:52

How many people is a mob anyway

Depends if you count Russian sock puppets and Twitter bots as people or not - about a thousand if you do, about a dozen if you don't.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 30/07/2020 14:54

Well i just googled kantastic and it said large amount of people

Which is no help whatsoever

So I’ll go with the dozen i guess

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 30/07/2020 14:55

@namechanger0989

This is ridiculous... dominoes are actually making the offer to people with the NAME Karen, which I think they bloody deserve the amount of stick they have got recently! They haven't said are you an over privileged woman who thinks she is better than every one? then here is some free pizza... I am also sick of people making things in to something they are not!
Absolutely
terracottapot · 30/07/2020 15:00

I'm totally fucking sick of this bullshit.

I'm sick of people being labelled. It's insulting. Just stop it.

It is no more acceptable to refer to women of a certain demographic as 'Karens' as it is to refer to other people by a name with derogatory connotations.

Datun · 30/07/2020 15:04

@namechanger0989

This is ridiculous... dominoes are actually making the offer to people with the NAME Karen, which I think they bloody deserve the amount of stick they have got recently! They haven't said are you an over privileged woman who thinks she is better than every one? then here is some free pizza... I am also sick of people making things in to something they are not!
Indeed. Which just shows that it's not about a certain type of person.

It's about any woman you can abuse with the name you have decided to link to a specific behaviour. Behaviour which could broadly be described as 'disagreeing with you'.

And they are so high on their own addiction to abusing women, they can't see that their gleeful, spittle filled rage, is visible from space.

There is a certain type of person that one instinctively avoids in real life. Weird, with the vibe that says you wouldn't believe what's going on in my head. These are the people who want to have a collective name for any woman they take a dislike to. Which is basically all of them.

heartsonacake · 30/07/2020 15:08

I don’t see that Dominos did anything wrong here; they shouldn’t have backed down. People will take offence over everything these days 🙄

terracottapot · 30/07/2020 15:09

It's about any woman you can abuse with the name you have decided to link to a specific behaviour

Exactly. And the behaviour they are referring to, whether they know it or not, derives from the USA where it is used as a slur against middle-aged 'privileged' white women, inferring that they are racists.

Helmetbymidnight · 30/07/2020 15:09

i think a lot of people really are confused with the us and the uk.
i dont believe karens are the entitled racists in this country- they are usually w/c and often black (at least my friends are)