@dolorsit
Christ. I honestly prefer outright sexist old fashioned views to the modern Bens of the world.
I'd much rather argue with an old fashioned male chauvinist than with a left wing feminist male. The chauvinist will argue his point of view.
The male feminist will get upset that you are disagreeing with him because he's a feminist and if you don't agree with him you are saying he's not a feminist.# The argument becomes all about him and how he feels.
of course he can't comprehend that feminists have been arguing amongst since the very start (because it's not a cult) because we're women and are meant to be nice and sisterly.
Old fashioned chauvinists don't necessarily hate women. They are the beneficiaries of a world view that holds women to be inferior, and they don't like being reminded of the fact, but they aren't necessarily motivated by personal dislike of women: they just favour the status quo because it benefits them.
Woke bros, on the other hand, are fully aware of patriarchy and, on paper, opposed to it. But they don't really want to overturn it because, just like the old-fashioned chauvinists, they benefit from it. Dilemma. This means they have to find a whole other raft of excuses not to listen to women. In the good ole days pre-about 2005, this was a bit tricky - they had to rely on telling women that their rights were important, but not as important as black/gay/working-class people - we were going to get their full support just as soon as those priority issues were sorted. But then, What light on yonder window breaks? It is transgenderism, come to save woke men from the risk of one day having to centre women. Now they can support women: just the ones with penises, not those pesky ones with vaginas. Problem solved.