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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BBC removes trans charities from support page

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teawamutu · 10/07/2020 18:47

From Penis News, but hopefully this link won't give them revenues:

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KingFredsTache · 28/07/2020 10:31

This is the lot of feminism. every feminist position that is fought for is considered to be insane, demanding, deranged, selfish, bitter and wrong - till it is won; then it is considered to be so manifestly reasonable that no one believes it was every fought for, in the teeth of violent opposition.

Exactly.

We take our right to be able to vote totally for granted. But at the time some women who were suffragettes were ostracised, they were accused of all sorts, other women thought they were awful people. I think a lot of people now think that Suffragettes were cheered on from the beginning by everyone or something? That all they did was hold up some signs saying 'well Behaved Women don't make history: girl power' or similar platitudes, and that was it, we got the vote.

I'm sure that women like Jameela Jamil for example would imagine that they would be at the front of the queue to protest about women getting a vote. I mean, votes for women, it's a no brainer right? But looking at the way that she is so eager to centre males now, even males who are rapists and sex offenders (her unfortunate 'I take them all' tweets) something tells me that it wouldn't be quite as simple as that?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/07/2020 10:36

She'd be saying that "Votes for Women" is a transphobic slogan as many women already have the vote.

Clymene · 28/07/2020 12:50

@bishopgiggles - correct. I was referring to twitter's policy

MrsJamin · 28/07/2020 20:46

So when will the BBC remove this piece of propaganda?
Leo: Becoming a Trans Man? I couldn't watch any more than 5 minutes as it contains SO many untruths about hormone blockers for children. It's just horrendous to think of a teenage girl watching this and being influenced by it. Sad

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 28/07/2020 21:59

Prince William and Duchess Kate have also dropped mermaids?

twitter.com/sineadsiobhan/status/1288207503046643713

TedsFederationRep · 28/07/2020 22:08

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, so Harry and Meghan, not William and Catherine.

boatyardblues · 28/07/2020 22:08

I thought that tweet said Sussexes, not Cambridges?

ThePurported · 28/07/2020 22:09

And the BBC Teach clip about 100 genders and "assigned at birth" is still available.

TedsFederationRep · 28/07/2020 22:09

Xpost.
I'd be amazed if the Cambridges had ever had any connection to Mermaids. Not their style at all.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 28/07/2020 22:15

Oh, my bad I can't tell one princess from the next.

Soz.

ThePurported · 28/07/2020 22:17

"Prince Harry recently met with the CEO of Mermaids, a charity supporting transgender and gender diverse young people in the U.K., The Telegraph reports. The Duke of Sussex believes the organization, along with other youth charities, is "on the front line of mental health work in the U.K," royal correspondent Hannah Furness writes.

Mermaids was reportedly invited by Heads Together—the umbrella mental health initiative run by Harry, Prince William, and Kate Middleton—to a roundtable meeting with other charity representatives at Ealing YMCA earlier this month to acknowledge its work."

www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a27254664/prince-harry-supports-transgender-children-charity

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 29/07/2020 11:23

I've been keeping an eye on the BBC & Mermaids twitter feeds, and the Mermaids press statements section on their website, and there hasn't been a peep from them.

BBC pride tweeted a long twitter thread protesting when the removal was pointed out to them, yet they haven't updated.

And Mermaids are usually very quick to issue press statements when something happens that involves them.

I think this odd silence means something, but I'm not sure what.

hoodathunkit · 29/07/2020 11:37

Mermaids was reportedly invited by Heads Together—the umbrella mental health initiative run by Harry, Prince William, and Kate Middleton—to a roundtable meeting with other charity representatives at Ealing YMCA earlier this month to acknowledge its work."

No time to post about this now but Heads Together is an organisation about which I have many concerns.

My computer crshed when I had multiple windows open following rabbit holes eminating from it and I lost a lot of work.

I suspect that the royal and former royal support is well intentioned but misguided.

Worthy of research IMO

ThePurported · 29/07/2020 11:43

I think this odd silence means something, but I'm not sure what

It's the 48h boycott over Twitter's lack of action re antisemitism.

CaveMum · 29/07/2020 11:49

The boycott finished at 10am today didn’t it? Mermaids and their litigious former employee have both been tweeting away this morning, but no mention of this story.

ThePurported · 29/07/2020 11:58

Oh sorry, I didn't know it had finished.
I guess Mermaids can't decide whether to draw attention to the fact that one of their major supporters has stopped promoting them.

highame · 29/07/2020 12:23

So how do you get this story out there?

WhittlingIhopMonkey · 30/07/2020 07:06

@Ereshkigalangcleg

She'd be saying that "Votes for Women" is a transphobic slogan as many women already have the vote.
I love this! So very true. She is not a friend to women.
boatyardblues · 30/07/2020 07:09

The shift in framing in that article is interesting:

The charities appear to have become victims of a dispute between trans activists and campaigners who believe that the rights and safety of women are being undermined.

Not feminists, not women but campaigners.

highame · 30/07/2020 07:16

The BBC must be under masses of pressure right now. I wonder if they'll cave

Goyle · 30/07/2020 07:16

From Janice Turner (@victoriapeckham on Twitter) in her Times column.

BBC removes trans charities from support page
highame · 30/07/2020 07:22

@Goyle is that today

Kit19 · 30/07/2020 07:28

Describing The charities as “victims” is an interesting word to use.....

And by interesting I mean deliberately emotive

Datun · 30/07/2020 07:35

I wonder what the FOI will lead to. Unless the BBC assumed they would be subject to one from the off, the internal emails and meetings will be interesting.

As will the reaction of Mermaids to them.

And the countering of the BBC to that.

Etc.

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