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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Black birthing people

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OverMoon · 10/07/2020 12:37

I’ve just seen a post on instagram stating that “Black birthing people are still dying”. I had to do a double-take. Birthing people?

Black women dying in childbirth at a higher rate that women from other backgrounds is obviously a huge issue in the UK that needs attention, and thankfully seems to be gaining more attention recently. But how is it helpful to use language that makes literally no sense!?

A quick twitter search of “black birthing people” shows that lots of other people are using this phrase too.

I am genuinely not against trans inclusivity where it makes sense, but how many trans men choose to get pregnant and give birth? Given they have gender dysphoria and are usually on hormones that would preclude that. Surely the numbers must be vanishingly small?

Doesn’t saying “black birthing people” ignore the fact that it is BLACK WOMEN, a doubly marginalised group, who are affected by this issue? It is misogyny and racism that is causing this. But we can’t say women?

What’s a “birthing person”!? The instagram post features the sentence “The energy you’re given to George Floyd, give to Black Birthing people too”. Am I the only one that finds this so untruthful and distracting from the real issue?

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DeeCeeCherry · 14/07/2020 16:23

wellbehavedwomen Thank you for the acknowledgement and further insight. You've stated it exactly as it is. All I can add is it's yet another sub-set who target Black Women viciously, including threats of personal attack, because we are seen as the easiest target whilst simultaneously being the quickest route to getting those "persecuted minorities alignment" cookies. & As said, it's not just Trans although they're the most vociferous at the moment.

The lack of outrage more widely is horrendous in itself, too

Yes indeed.

I see womens' issues as a whole, not based in race and colour, and really wonder if that's reciprocated. I'm not sure.

We like JK Rowling tho. & have even started getting stick for that...

ShinyFootball · 14/07/2020 19:53

The language used is awful I agree

Geriatric mother (over 35!)
Spontaneous abortion

And I give you

Incompetent cervix Hmm

It's all so misogynistic isn't it

Anyone got equivalents for male issues around reproduction?

I mean erectile dysfunction is not a great term, but imagine if it was incompetent penis!

ShinyFootball · 14/07/2020 19:55

The insistence that white women who are feminists don't recognise black women as female is a bonkers accusation.

Divide and conquer and they're happy to appropriate anyone and everyone's experiences, support networks etc etc to get what they want.

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